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There are several cases in the US where courts override parents wishes, while it's true US courts tend to give more rights to the parent than the courts in dete

There are several cases in the US where courts override parents wishes, while it's true US courts tend to give more rights to the parent than the courts in determining what's best for the child - at least for middle class parents - in Custody of a Minor (and other cases), the court held that family autonomy is not absolute. For your "opposite" case, where a court could order removal of a baby from life support, there have been several cases in America https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Baby-dies-after-hospital-removes-breathing-tube-1926032.php https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Baby-dies-a... "Sun's death marks the first time a U.S. judge has allowed a hospital to discontinue an infant's life-sustaining care against a parent's wishes, according to bioethical experts. A similar case involving a 68-year-old man in a vegetative state at another Houston hospital is before a court now."

daenz 6y ago
I'm not arguing that it has never/will never happen in America. I was trying to be careful with my wording, eg "more legitimized." I think that a place where healthcare is government funded is more likely to accept decisions that other places consider overreaching by the state. My underlying point is the power dynamic between a government and its people, and the argument that a government "providing" more things increases that dynamic in the favor of the government. This makes any decisions related to that dynamic more legitimized.
- iso1210 6y ago
  Do you have any evidence to back up your claim? The US government provides 27% of things in the US (budget vs GDP), about the same as South Korea and Switzerland, more than Ireland (23%), less than New Zealand (32%), UK (33%), Spain (34%), but not by an extreme amount.
  - daenz 6y ago
    >The US government provides 27% of things in the US (budget vs GDP) This is silly. Budget vs GDP is not how you measure how much a government provides. You're not controlling for waste.

daenz 6y ago

I'm not arguing that it has never/will never happen in America. I was trying to be careful with my wording, eg "more legitimized." I think that a place where healthcare is government funded is more likely to accept decisions that other places consider overreaching by the state. My underlying point is the power dynamic between a government and its people, and the argument that a government "providing" more things increases that dynamic in the favor of the government. This makes any decisions related to that dynamic more legitimized.

iso1210 6y ago
Do you have any evidence to back up your claim? The US government provides 27% of things in the US (budget vs GDP), about the same as South Korea and Switzerland, more than Ireland (23%), less than New Zealand (32%), UK (33%), Spain (34%), but not by an extreme amount.
- daenz 6y ago
  >The US government provides 27% of things in the US (budget vs GDP) This is silly. Budget vs GDP is not how you measure how much a government provides. You're not controlling for waste.