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Thanks for sharing. I love it. Might add it to the food plan !;)

by simlan 6y ago

SavantIdiot 6y ago
"Pound pepper, lovage, cumin, coriander, laser root, rue, caroenum, honey, pour on some of the cooking liquor, flavour with vinegar. " I'll just nip of to the market, then. brb.
- twic 6y ago
  We had this recipe for Christmas one year. With a few substitutions according to what was available - damson juice instead of grape juice, for example. It was very nice.
  - SavantIdiot 6y ago
    Was the laser root good? "Silphium (also known as silphion, laserwort, or laser) is an unidentified plant that was used in classical antiquity as a seasoning, perfume, aphrodisiac, and medicine."
    - technothrasher 6y ago
      The author of the article substituted asafoetida for the laser.
    - twic 6y ago
      I can't remember what we used instead of that!
- fao_ 6y ago
  Pepper, Cumin, Coriander, Honey: All readily available. Lovage: Easy to get hold of if you're in Europe according to Wikipedia "its flavor and smell can be described as a mix of Celery and Parsley, but with a higher intensity of both of those flavors". So, literally just add in a large amount of those to compensate for the strength. Caroneum: According to this website[0] "as long as you can find a carton of white grape juice, you're set" to make it, so that's readily available. Rue - According to Wikipedia "Rue extracts are mutagenic and hepatotoxic". It's bitter, so you could very likely substitute a fair amount of Fenugreek for it, which is bitter but fragrant. Laser Root - Also known as Ailphium, this no longer exists. However, Asafeotida "had similar enough qualities that Romans, including the geographer Strabo, used the same word to describe both". So literally just use that. So in other words you use Pepper, Cumin, Coriander, Celery, Parsley, Homemade Caroneum, Fenugreek, Asafeotida, and Honey. Which really doesn't sound that difficult to get hold of, does it? [0]: https://pass-the-garum.blogspot.com/2013/03/caroenum.html https://pass-the-garum.blogspot.com/2013/03/caroenum.html
  - Clewza313 6y ago
    Asafoetida has an extremely strong smell though: if you use the same amount (half teaspoon) as the other spices, it will completely overpower them. It's common in Indian cooking, but the quantity typically used is a literal pinch.
    - fao_ 6y ago
      I haven't found that to be the case when cooked. Commercial asafoetida is mixed with tumeric for colour, and rice flour to reduce it to edible porportions. Please don't use pure asafoetida, I don't know of anyone else that does that and it will just smell horrible, along with giving you stomach problems. Even forms of asafoetida you can find in non-western countries are typically mixed with rice flour.
      - blodorn 6y ago
        Pure asafoetida is fine to use, it doesn't smell bad, it doesn't give you stomach problems. You dilute it with the food you cook with it. It doesn't need it adulterated with flour and turmeric. Here is a good brand that I like, "Best Hing Ever". Hing is another name for asafoetida. https://www.pureindianfoods.com/hing-asafoetida-powder-p/hing.htm https://www.pureindianfoods.com/hing-asafoetida-powder-p/hin...
        fao_ 6y ago
        > Pure asafoetida is fine to use, it doesn't smell bad, it doesn't give you stomach problems. Interesting, because every single report I've heard on it has said the opposite! I don't distrust you, I'm now just wondering what causes the variation!
      - s0rce 6y ago
        I have some commercial asafoetida and it just has some edible gum added. Its in powder form. Seems to have a smell but not really objectionable.
  - s0rce 6y ago

Thanks for sharing. I love it. Might add it to the food plan !;)

by simlan 6y ago

Thanks for sharing. I love it. Might add it to the food plan !;)

"Pound pepper, lovage, cumin, coriander, laser root, rue, caroenum, honey, pour on some of the cooking liquor, flavour with vinegar. " I'll just nip of to the market, then. brb.

twic 6y ago
We had this recipe for Christmas one year. With a few substitutions according to what was available - damson juice instead of grape juice, for example. It was very nice.
- SavantIdiot 6y ago
  Was the laser root good? "Silphium (also known as silphion, laserwort, or laser) is an unidentified plant that was used in classical antiquity as a seasoning, perfume, aphrodisiac, and medicine."
  - technothrasher 6y ago
    The author of the article substituted asafoetida for the laser.
  - twic 6y ago
    I can't remember what we used instead of that!
fao_ 6y ago
Pepper, Cumin, Coriander, Honey: All readily available. Lovage: Easy to get hold of if you're in Europe according to Wikipedia "its flavor and smell can be described as a mix of Celery and Parsley, but with a higher intensity of both of those flavors". So, literally just add in a large amount of those to compensate for the strength. Caroneum: According to this website[0] "as long as you can find a carton of white grape juice, you're set" to make it, so that's readily available. Rue - According to Wikipedia "Rue extracts are mutagenic and hepatotoxic". It's bitter, so you could very likely substitute a fair amount of Fenugreek for it, which is bitter but fragrant. Laser Root - Also known as Ailphium, this no longer exists. However, Asafeotida "had similar enough qualities that Romans, including the geographer Strabo, used the same word to describe both". So literally just use that. So in other words you use Pepper, Cumin, Coriander, Celery, Parsley, Homemade Caroneum, Fenugreek, Asafeotida, and Honey. Which really doesn't sound that difficult to get hold of, does it? [0]: https://pass-the-garum.blogspot.com/2013/03/caroenum.html https://pass-the-garum.blogspot.com/2013/03/caroenum.html
- Clewza313 6y ago
  Asafoetida has an extremely strong smell though: if you use the same amount (half teaspoon) as the other spices, it will completely overpower them. It's common in Indian cooking, but the quantity typically used is a literal pinch.
  - fao_ 6y ago
    I haven't found that to be the case when cooked. Commercial asafoetida is mixed with tumeric for colour, and rice flour to reduce it to edible porportions. Please don't use pure asafoetida, I don't know of anyone else that does that and it will just smell horrible, along with giving you stomach problems. Even forms of asafoetida you can find in non-western countries are typically mixed with rice flour.
    - blodorn 6y ago
      Pure asafoetida is fine to use, it doesn't smell bad, it doesn't give you stomach problems. You dilute it with the food you cook with it. It doesn't need it adulterated with flour and turmeric. Here is a good brand that I like, "Best Hing Ever". Hing is another name for asafoetida. https://www.pureindianfoods.com/hing-asafoetida-powder-p/hing.htm https://www.pureindianfoods.com/hing-asafoetida-powder-p/hin...
      - fao_ 6y ago
        > Pure asafoetida is fine to use, it doesn't smell bad, it doesn't give you stomach problems. Interesting, because every single report I've heard on it has said the opposite! I don't distrust you, I'm now just wondering what causes the variation!
    - s0rce 6y ago
      I have some commercial asafoetida and it just has some edible gum added. Its in powder form. Seems to have a smell but not really objectionable.
- s0rce 6y ago