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You need another GPU for that. Not really practical.

by gsich 6y ago

chrisseaton 6y ago
How do you think gaming streaming services work?
- gsich 6y ago
  So I need two machines to used this GPU? Thats even worse. I know some trickery with an onboard CPU maybe works and thought you meant that.
  - chrisseaton 6y ago
    > So I need two machines to used this GPU? No? Why would they need to be in different machines? You can stream from one GPU to another, whether they're in the same machine or not. One GPU may be a cheap little one built into your motherboard. You probably already have it anyway! And even if you did need two machines... again that's how gaming streaming services work. Cheap end-user machines or iPad or just TV, and then a gaming system streaming video output somewhere else.
    - gsich 6y ago
      >No? Why would they need to be in different machines? You can stream from one GPU to another, whether they're in the same machine or not. One GPU may be a cheap little one built into your motherboard. You probably already have it anyway! Thats not really called "streaming". So given that somewhere in this thread there was a youtube link on how to do that, which required testmode in Windows - it's still not practical.
      - chrisseaton 6y ago
        > Thats not really called "streaming". The data would literally be streamed along a bus from one storage to another. The name ‘streaming’ literally appears in some APIs you’d use to do it!
        gsich 6y ago
        Then you need to use the word "streaming" correctly. Video streaming is not copying data to a different frame buffer. Nvidia with their Optimus technology doesn't call this "streaming". You used the same term for both.
        chrisseaton 6y ago
        > streaming is not copying data to a different frame buffer That's exactly what streaming means as a technical term: Examples: https://wiki.libsdl.org/SDL_TextureAccess https://wiki.libsdl.org/SDL_TextureAccess https://community.khronos.org/t/streaming-texture/60774 https://community.khronos.org/t/streaming-texture/60774 https://www.khronos.org/opengl/wiki/Buffer_Object_Streaming https://www.khronos.org/opengl/wiki/Buffer_Object_Streaming
        gsich 6y ago
        None of these links are related the conversation here. First one is even empty. Neither for "video streaming", nor for frame-buffer (Optimus) stuff. Make up your mind. If I counter your "video streaming" argument, you can't come with "but I meant streaming on the same device" without even mentioning either a technology, or the most important thing there (the frame buffer). Now you want streaming to mean something that is used in game engines. How those 3 links help in making the mining card usable is for you to proof.
M277 6y ago
I don't know about that. Plenty of people are using Intel non-F CPUs which have iGPUs. Honestly, the worrying part is that NVIDIA may block this. If I remember right, they did something similar back in 2017 with the P106 mining cards (GTX 1060 equivalent) when people bought them for cheap.

You need another GPU for that. Not really practical.

by gsich 6y ago

You need another GPU for that. Not really practical.

chrisseaton 6y ago

How do you think gaming streaming services work?

gsich 6y ago
So I need two machines to used this GPU? Thats even worse. I know some trickery with an onboard CPU maybe works and thought you meant that.
- chrisseaton 6y ago
  > So I need two machines to used this GPU? No? Why would they need to be in different machines? You can stream from one GPU to another, whether they're in the same machine or not. One GPU may be a cheap little one built into your motherboard. You probably already have it anyway! And even if you did need two machines... again that's how gaming streaming services work. Cheap end-user machines or iPad or just TV, and then a gaming system streaming video output somewhere else.
  - gsich 6y ago
    >No? Why would they need to be in different machines? You can stream from one GPU to another, whether they're in the same machine or not. One GPU may be a cheap little one built into your motherboard. You probably already have it anyway! Thats not really called "streaming". So given that somewhere in this thread there was a youtube link on how to do that, which required testmode in Windows - it's still not practical.
    - chrisseaton 6y ago
      > Thats not really called "streaming". The data would literally be streamed along a bus from one storage to another. The name ‘streaming’ literally appears in some APIs you’d use to do it!
      - gsich 6y ago
        Then you need to use the word "streaming" correctly. Video streaming is not copying data to a different frame buffer. Nvidia with their Optimus technology doesn't call this "streaming". You used the same term for both.
        chrisseaton 6y ago
        > streaming is not copying data to a different frame buffer That's exactly what streaming means as a technical term: Examples: https://wiki.libsdl.org/SDL_TextureAccess https://wiki.libsdl.org/SDL_TextureAccess https://community.khronos.org/t/streaming-texture/60774 https://community.khronos.org/t/streaming-texture/60774 https://www.khronos.org/opengl/wiki/Buffer_Object_Streaming https://www.khronos.org/opengl/wiki/Buffer_Object_Streaming
        gsich 6y ago
        None of these links are related the conversation here. First one is even empty. Neither for "video streaming", nor for frame-buffer (Optimus) stuff. Make up your mind. If I counter your "video streaming" argument, you can't come with "but I meant streaming on the same device" without even mentioning either a technology, or the most important thing there (the frame buffer). Now you want streaming to mean something that is used in game engines. How those 3 links help in making the mining card usable is for you to proof.

M277 6y ago

I don't know about that. Plenty of people are using Intel non-F CPUs which have iGPUs. Honestly, the worrying part is that NVIDIA may block this. If I remember right, they did something similar back in 2017 with the P106 mining cards (GTX 1060 equivalent) when people bought them for cheap.