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Why is it sickening? And why have good students in quotes? Students that for example try to rank high in status by using violence in class or bullying will als

Why is it sickening? And why have good students in quotes? Students that for example try to rank high in status by using violence in class or bullying will also always exist. They are extremely costly and teachers are not allowed to incentivize good behavior. What I mean is that private schools quickly understand just how much damage a student can do and the teacher board / politicians really don’t, they think everything is sunshine and unicorns and put systems in place that are extremely naive. The system in place only highlights the problem, but it’s not the root cause.

anon_tor_12345 6y ago
>Students that for example try to rank high in status by using violence in class or bullying will also always exist. i don't understand this position. violence will always exist but we should blame the politicians? >the teacher board / politicians really don’t ... are extremely naive where you're mistaken is that >the root cause is exactly these kinds of practices that divide people/create inequality.
- Spivak 6y ago
  > I don't understand this position. violence will always exist but we should blame the politicians? Yes! Sure, violence will always exist but that doesn’t mean that kids should have to be subjected to it. I was bullied in the “dragged outside of a teachers view and then beaten until I couldn’t move” sense and you know what happened to them… fucking nothing. Like actually literally nothing. Everyone in the school knew all the times it happened including the teachers and administrators but nobody had the power to remove them from school. One of my teachers took pity on me and offered to give me “detention” whenever I needed it. That’s what they could do. My parents fought for years to do something with no avail and then moved me to a private school. So yeah these practices create inequality because anyone lucky enough to have the means to get out does. As an individual family my parents couldn’t fix my local public school so they did what they could. Therapy was more expensive than the private school tuition.
superflit 6y ago
"What I mean is that private schools quickly understand just how much damage a student can do and the teacher board / politicians really don’t, they think everything is sunshine and unicorns and put systems in place that are extremely naive." The politician Really understand the problem that is the reason their kids are on the private school or them likely live in the ""same district"" then.
ben_w 6y ago
If it was both easy and desirable for private[0] schools to both spot and expel the violent, the current Prime Minister of the UK would not have completed Eton and from there gotten into Oxford, where he developed his current thuggish reputation by smashing up restaurants. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/07/oxford-bullingdon-club-boris-johnson-sexism-violence-bullying-culture https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/07/oxford-bull... [0] or, as they are called in the UK, “public schools”, because reasons

anon_tor_12345 6y ago

>Students that for example try to rank high in status by using violence in class or bullying will also always exist. i don't understand this position. violence will always exist but we should blame the politicians? >the teacher board / politicians really don’t ... are extremely naive where you're mistaken is that >the root cause is exactly these kinds of practices that divide people/create inequality.

Spivak 6y ago
> I don't understand this position. violence will always exist but we should blame the politicians? Yes! Sure, violence will always exist but that doesn’t mean that kids should have to be subjected to it. I was bullied in the “dragged outside of a teachers view and then beaten until I couldn’t move” sense and you know what happened to them… fucking nothing. Like actually literally nothing. Everyone in the school knew all the times it happened including the teachers and administrators but nobody had the power to remove them from school. One of my teachers took pity on me and offered to give me “detention” whenever I needed it. That’s what they could do. My parents fought for years to do something with no avail and then moved me to a private school. So yeah these practices create inequality because anyone lucky enough to have the means to get out does. As an individual family my parents couldn’t fix my local public school so they did what they could. Therapy was more expensive than the private school tuition.

superflit 6y ago

"What I mean is that private schools quickly understand just how much damage a student can do and the teacher board / politicians really don’t, they think everything is sunshine and unicorns and put systems in place that are extremely naive." The politician Really understand the problem that is the reason their kids are on the private school or them likely live in the ""same district"" then.

ben_w 6y ago

If it was both easy and desirable for private[0] schools to both spot and expel the violent, the current Prime Minister of the UK would not have completed Eton and from there gotten into Oxford, where he developed his current thuggish reputation by smashing up restaurants. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/07/oxford-bullingdon-club-boris-johnson-sexism-violence-bullying-culture https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/07/oxford-bull... [0] or, as they are called in the UK, “public schools”, because reasons