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"> Would you want a bunch of foreign companies sitting in your network, siphoning all your hard work out for free? I don't care. Its up to my stakeholders, I d

"> Would you want a bunch of foreign companies sitting in your network, siphoning all your hard work out for free? I don't care. Its up to my stakeholders, I don't work for my granpas company." Enough said.

majkinetor 6y ago
The other name for what I tell is professionalism. The other name for what you tell is racketeering. What part of "educating stakeholder and let them decide" you didn't understand ?
- gypsyharlot 6y ago
  "majority of tools don't need any updates if they already work as designed" This is just about the dumbest thing I've read on HN. It's fascinating that you think of yourself as professional. Like I said, most organizations have no clue what's actually happening in their networks - mostly due to people like you. Have fun when the digital forensics team is dispatched to one of your sites that has had all its data lost to some crypto virus (because when that happens, they notice). And the forensics guys will write a report which outlines the reason why it happened. And the reason is nearly always outdated software.
  - jcelerier 6y ago
    > Like I said, most organizations have no clue what's actually happening in their networks you act like most software is on the network. But a majority of the software I use either for my work or for my leasure time don't even open a socket.
    - Mediterraneo10 6y ago
      Lots more software today is on the network than many people think. Even if network access is not required for an application’s functionality, the software may still do an update check to a remote server so that it can alert users to a new update available.
      - Silhouette 6y ago
        But we're talking about software that we are writing. If we have any dependencies that are connecting to the network without us knowing about it, we have a serious problem already!
        Mediterraneo10 6y ago
        I was responding to the grandparent post’s statement "A majority of the software I use either for my work or for my leasure time don't even open a socket".
      - jcelerier 6y ago
        > the software may still do an update check to a remote server so that it can alert users to a new update available. most of my day-to-day software is linux distro software which definitely does not do that except a few rare exceptions.

majkinetor 6y ago

The other name for what I tell is professionalism. The other name for what you tell is racketeering. What part of "educating stakeholder and let them decide" you didn't understand ?

gypsyharlot 6y ago
"majority of tools don't need any updates if they already work as designed" This is just about the dumbest thing I've read on HN. It's fascinating that you think of yourself as professional. Like I said, most organizations have no clue what's actually happening in their networks - mostly due to people like you. Have fun when the digital forensics team is dispatched to one of your sites that has had all its data lost to some crypto virus (because when that happens, they notice). And the forensics guys will write a report which outlines the reason why it happened. And the reason is nearly always outdated software.
- jcelerier 6y ago
  > Like I said, most organizations have no clue what's actually happening in their networks you act like most software is on the network. But a majority of the software I use either for my work or for my leasure time don't even open a socket.
  - Mediterraneo10 6y ago
    Lots more software today is on the network than many people think. Even if network access is not required for an application’s functionality, the software may still do an update check to a remote server so that it can alert users to a new update available.
    - Silhouette 6y ago
      But we're talking about software that we are writing. If we have any dependencies that are connecting to the network without us knowing about it, we have a serious problem already!
      - Mediterraneo10 6y ago
        I was responding to the grandparent post’s statement "A majority of the software I use either for my work or for my leasure time don't even open a socket".
    - jcelerier 6y ago
      > the software may still do an update check to a remote server so that it can alert users to a new update available. most of my day-to-day software is linux distro software which definitely does not do that except a few rare exceptions.