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Like djrogers, I can't honestly say that I've seen a comment like that. I recall ones more like "I'm not interested in running another OS on my Mac" and "if you

Like djrogers, I can't honestly say that I've seen a comment like that. I recall ones more like "I'm not interested in running another OS on my Mac" and "if you wanted to run Linux, why would you buy a Mac," but those really aren't the same sentiment.

asveikau 6y ago
Maybe you are more accurately describing it. Some of them also say that free OSs are often behind on Mac hardware anyway, even on Intel. But the implication that I read into it is there's little reason to do it.
- ogre_codes 6y ago
  No big mystery here, people who buy Macs, prefer MacOS and don't see why you'd bother with Desktop Linux in general. I'm personally interested in Linux on the Mac as a curiosity and as an alternative in case Apple ever screws up MacOS so much I feel desktop Linux is the least bad alternative.
  - asveikau 6y ago
    I think M1 is a perfect example of why one might want to consider Apple's hardware and software in isolation, rather than a single integrated piece. There isn't currently another ARM laptop with the same performance characteristics. There have been other times when I thought apple hardware was more interesting than macOS. I don't think macOS is bad per se. There are times when I find it pleasant and times when I would greatly prefer something else. The attitude we're describing -- why use Linux when there is macOS?? -- strikes me as a little odd, because there is a built in hostility and assumption that everyone shares the Mac fan's opinions and preferences, universally and in all circumstances.
    - ogre_codes 6y ago
      I get it. It's a matter of perspective. As a Linux/ OpenBSD user, Mac hardware is suddenly a bit more appealing. As a Mac user, the reverse it not true. OpenBSD or Linux are no more appealing than it was before the switch. As for the rest of your post, I feel like the conversation is moving here under me. Use whatever OS you want. I don't see a ton of Mac people on here discouraging or disparaging any of this. I do see a a fair number of posts like the top one. "Running an alternative OS natively on a Mac doesn't seem very appealing to me." Which I don't see as the same as what you are suggesting.
      - asveikau 6y ago
        This is a solid reply, thanks. I like those middle 2 lines; for a user of a free OS, Mac hardware is interesting, but the reverse is not true. And sure, "use whatever OS you want" is kind of my point too. I have seen the Mac community at large seeming to not have that live and let live attitude. Not anyone on this thread, but I think it is a thing that happens.
comex 6y ago
A comment like that is now the top comment in the thread :) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26210875 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26210875
- chipotle_coyote 6y ago
  Well, it's a comment that says, > Running an alternative OS "natively" on a Mac doesn't seem very appealing to me. Which is pretty much exactly the kind of comment that I said I've seen ("I'm not interested in running another OS on my Mac"). Again, not the same as "a free OS will never run on this bespoke Apple product, and shouldn't." It's the difference between "I bought a Mac because I wanted to run macOS on it" and "I bought a Mac out of vanity and want to separate myself from the plebes." Or, to put it another way, the difference between actual Apple users and Artie MacStrawman.

asveikau 6y ago

Maybe you are more accurately describing it. Some of them also say that free OSs are often behind on Mac hardware anyway, even on Intel. But the implication that I read into it is there's little reason to do it.

ogre_codes 6y ago
No big mystery here, people who buy Macs, prefer MacOS and don't see why you'd bother with Desktop Linux in general. I'm personally interested in Linux on the Mac as a curiosity and as an alternative in case Apple ever screws up MacOS so much I feel desktop Linux is the least bad alternative.
- asveikau 6y ago
  I think M1 is a perfect example of why one might want to consider Apple's hardware and software in isolation, rather than a single integrated piece. There isn't currently another ARM laptop with the same performance characteristics. There have been other times when I thought apple hardware was more interesting than macOS. I don't think macOS is bad per se. There are times when I find it pleasant and times when I would greatly prefer something else. The attitude we're describing -- why use Linux when there is macOS?? -- strikes me as a little odd, because there is a built in hostility and assumption that everyone shares the Mac fan's opinions and preferences, universally and in all circumstances.
  - ogre_codes 6y ago
    I get it. It's a matter of perspective. As a Linux/ OpenBSD user, Mac hardware is suddenly a bit more appealing. As a Mac user, the reverse it not true. OpenBSD or Linux are no more appealing than it was before the switch. As for the rest of your post, I feel like the conversation is moving here under me. Use whatever OS you want. I don't see a ton of Mac people on here discouraging or disparaging any of this. I do see a a fair number of posts like the top one. "Running an alternative OS natively on a Mac doesn't seem very appealing to me." Which I don't see as the same as what you are suggesting.
    - asveikau 6y ago
      This is a solid reply, thanks. I like those middle 2 lines; for a user of a free OS, Mac hardware is interesting, but the reverse is not true. And sure, "use whatever OS you want" is kind of my point too. I have seen the Mac community at large seeming to not have that live and let live attitude. Not anyone on this thread, but I think it is a thing that happens.

comex 6y ago

A comment like that is now the top comment in the thread :) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26210875 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26210875

chipotle_coyote 6y ago
Well, it's a comment that says, > Running an alternative OS "natively" on a Mac doesn't seem very appealing to me. Which is pretty much exactly the kind of comment that I said I've seen ("I'm not interested in running another OS on my Mac"). Again, not the same as "a free OS will never run on this bespoke Apple product, and shouldn't." It's the difference between "I bought a Mac because I wanted to run macOS on it" and "I bought a Mac out of vanity and want to separate myself from the plebes." Or, to put it another way, the difference between actual Apple users and Artie MacStrawman.