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Animated recreation with audio: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7-zh7Sebr8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7-zh7Sebr8 * Via: https://forums.liveatc.net/at

Animated recreation with audio: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7-zh7Sebr8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7-zh7Sebr8 * Via: https://forums.liveatc.net/atcaviation-audio-clips/ual-328-uncontained-engine-failure-den/ https://forums.liveatc.net/atcaviation-audio-clips/ual-328-u...

EE84M3i 6y ago
If anyone else is wondering what ZIMMR means in this context, it is a specific feature of the Denver airport: https://ja.flightaware.com/resources/airport/DEN/DP/ZIMMR+TWO+(RNAV)/pdf https://ja.flightaware.com/resources/airport/DEN/DP/ZIMMR+TW...
- repiret 6y ago
  A specific location. Waypoints used in IFR approaches are given unique, 5-letter, usually pronounceable, names.
  - tialaramex 6y ago
    As well as being unique they're chosen to avoid similar sounding ones being near each other. So KITES and SITES might both exist but they'd never be anywhere that you could confuse one for the other.
bredren 6y ago
How come the discrete audio on 120.15 was not available?
- throw0101a 6y ago
  LiveATC uses volunteers to record well-known frequencies at various airports. 120.15 may have been stood-up in an ad hoc fashion, so there was no radio configured to record it. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airband https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airband
  - bredren 6y ago
    When control described it as "discrete" was it because they know that listeners wouldn't be prepared to monitor it? I find it odd that a public frequency would be described as discrete without some greater barrier to listening in.
    - throw0101a 6y ago
      You are thinking of "discreet": * careful and circumspect in one's speech or actions, especially in order to avoid causing offense or to gain an advantage. The word they were using was "discrete": * individually separate and distinct. 120.15 is/was not used for anything else at Denver, so people could talk about the situation on the ground without effecting the operations elsewhere. Once the problem was 'contained', the rest of the airport could go back to operating 'normally' on the other runways.
      - bredren 6y ago
        I see. Thank you for clarifying that. I'm still a bit surprised that the audio went uncaptured. It is interesting how much information that would be interesting to the public still spills into the ether.

EE84M3i 6y ago

If anyone else is wondering what ZIMMR means in this context, it is a specific feature of the Denver airport: https://ja.flightaware.com/resources/airport/DEN/DP/ZIMMR+TWO+(RNAV)/pdf https://ja.flightaware.com/resources/airport/DEN/DP/ZIMMR+TW...

repiret 6y ago
A specific location. Waypoints used in IFR approaches are given unique, 5-letter, usually pronounceable, names.
- tialaramex 6y ago
  As well as being unique they're chosen to avoid similar sounding ones being near each other. So KITES and SITES might both exist but they'd never be anywhere that you could confuse one for the other.

bredren 6y ago

How come the discrete audio on 120.15 was not available?

throw0101a 6y ago
LiveATC uses volunteers to record well-known frequencies at various airports. 120.15 may have been stood-up in an ad hoc fashion, so there was no radio configured to record it. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airband https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airband
- bredren 6y ago
  When control described it as "discrete" was it because they know that listeners wouldn't be prepared to monitor it? I find it odd that a public frequency would be described as discrete without some greater barrier to listening in.
  - throw0101a 6y ago
    You are thinking of "discreet": * careful and circumspect in one's speech or actions, especially in order to avoid causing offense or to gain an advantage. The word they were using was "discrete": * individually separate and distinct. 120.15 is/was not used for anything else at Denver, so people could talk about the situation on the ground without effecting the operations elsewhere. Once the problem was 'contained', the rest of the airport could go back to operating 'normally' on the other runways.
    - bredren 6y ago
      I see. Thank you for clarifying that. I'm still a bit surprised that the audio went uncaptured. It is interesting how much information that would be interesting to the public still spills into the ether.