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Simon (the founder & proprietor of The Aviation Herald) is an incredible force for good in the world. His work on that site, for well over a decade now, is lege

Simon (the founder & proprietor of The Aviation Herald) is an incredible force for good in the world. His work on that site, for well over a decade now, is legendary.

hu3 6y ago
Fun fact: the response header [1] of that website suggests it is powered by Apache and Perl. Which is amazing in itself. And it's still responsive despite being #1 on HN. [1] Apache/2.2.17 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.17 OpenSSL/1.0.2r mod_perl/2.0.4 Perl/v5.10.0
- tantalor 6y ago
  Why is that suprising? Serving static content is easy
  - rossdavidh 6y ago
    ...and yet, very rarely done. That the correct technology for a news site (static content) was done, is the surprising part.
    - dirkt 6y ago
      It would also be the correct technology for most sites - you don't need fancy Javascript for just the contents. Navigation, ads, etc., maybe, but not the contents itself. Most webpages could be perfectly useful with Javascript completely disabled. Sadly, many aren't.
      - tantalor 6y ago
        Fancy JavaScript has nothing to do with serving static content. JavaScript itself is (or should be) static content anyway. If you're talking about using JS to load content on page load, for whatever reason, that async content can also be static. For example some sites use the URL fragment (hash parameter) to load content, but the server does not receive this: The fragment identifier functions differently to the rest of the URI: its processing is exclusively client-sided with no participation from the web server - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/URI_fragment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/URI_fragment
        dirkt 6y ago
        > Fancy JavaScript has nothing to do with serving static content Still, I visit websites all the time that don't work with Javascript disabled. They don't work at all, or the images don't load, or the formatting breaks down. None of this is necessary. In principle, static content should work fine with Javascript disabled.
  - EvangelicalPig 6y ago
    I mean. How much is classic Perl used in web applications these days?
    - tantalor 6y ago
      0.1%, not much! https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/programming_language https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/programming_langua... But concatenating strings together is the same in any language, right?

Simon (the founder & proprietor of The Aviation Herald) is an incredible force for good in the world. His work on that site, for well over a decade now, is legendary.

hu3 6y ago

Fun fact: the response header [1] of that website suggests it is powered by Apache and Perl. Which is amazing in itself. And it's still responsive despite being #1 on HN. [1] Apache/2.2.17 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.17 OpenSSL/1.0.2r mod_perl/2.0.4 Perl/v5.10.0

tantalor 6y ago
Why is that suprising? Serving static content is easy
- rossdavidh 6y ago
  ...and yet, very rarely done. That the correct technology for a news site (static content) was done, is the surprising part.
  - dirkt 6y ago
    It would also be the correct technology for most sites - you don't need fancy Javascript for just the contents. Navigation, ads, etc., maybe, but not the contents itself. Most webpages could be perfectly useful with Javascript completely disabled. Sadly, many aren't.
    - tantalor 6y ago
      Fancy JavaScript has nothing to do with serving static content. JavaScript itself is (or should be) static content anyway. If you're talking about using JS to load content on page load, for whatever reason, that async content can also be static. For example some sites use the URL fragment (hash parameter) to load content, but the server does not receive this: The fragment identifier functions differently to the rest of the URI: its processing is exclusively client-sided with no participation from the web server - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/URI_fragment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/URI_fragment
      - dirkt 6y ago
        > Fancy JavaScript has nothing to do with serving static content Still, I visit websites all the time that don't work with Javascript disabled. They don't work at all, or the images don't load, or the formatting breaks down. None of this is necessary. In principle, static content should work fine with Javascript disabled.
- EvangelicalPig 6y ago
  I mean. How much is classic Perl used in web applications these days?
  - tantalor 6y ago
    0.1%, not much! https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/programming_language https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/programming_langua... But concatenating strings together is the same in any language, right?