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There are more species than humans who need to reproduce.

da_big_ghey 6y ago
That is a good point, maybe something like one-child policy better serve this need. Or possibly we must consider which is worse for animals, damage from climate change or damage from endocrine disruptor.
- JulianMorrison 6y ago
  The answer is neither. Human energy use that causes climate harms can be replaced with renewables. Fuel can be replaced with batteries. In the longer term, the sun is absolutely pouring out energy, which largely goes to waste, and a Dyson swarm capturing a small fraction of that would satisfy the energy needs of a much larger population.
  - da_big_ghey 6y ago
    These are not solving land impact of human. We must have fewer human or live in smal space like in Tokyo and others city like it. Most human no have desire to do this. Batery take resources like lithium more than we have. Maybe Dyson swarm eating star energy output cause climate change of its own, fewer energy reaching earth surface. There is always impacts that human create. We only can for truly mitigate climate change with reducing human numbers. One action we take for to reduce impact create impact again in one other place. We swalow spider to catch fly and continue on each and again. One child policy is the forebest way for to accomplish.
    - mnouquet 6y ago
      > We only can for truly mitigate climate change with reducing human numbers. Then you should welcome pandemic, genocide and war.
      - da_big_ghey 6y ago
        they are having some positive efect in long enough view. also they are having sufering first. best is not to have as much persons born.
  - mnouquet 6y ago
    > Human energy use that causes climate harms can be replaced with renewables No, it can't.
- mnouquet 6y ago
  > one-child policy better serve this need Over my cold dead body [and I won't go without a fight.].
  - da_big_ghey 6y ago
    This more extreme usonian gun and freedom idea. If government say you have only one child you hav xr15 rifle not help. you people no can be trust with guns, ability to have as many children as wanted, others. you try use them to continue kill planet. you no have freedom to keep breeding kill other country with climate change. US having more children is externality it not pay. the US days of telling world around and doing what desire is over.
    - mnouquet 6y ago
      > If government say you have only one child you hav xr15 rifle not help What are they gonna do, line me up and execute me and my family ? Kill my children ? Fortunately, Rights are still a thing, including the 2nd.
      - da_big_ghey 6y ago
        This is not in need. Fining confiscateing properties limiting from some good jobs all good consicuences. You have politician come to senses but slowly, you have democrat party finaly beat sense into your head on guns, sicund amendment be finaly rimoved. US no simply dictate to rest of world any more. If US continue cause climate change PRC enforce by army. US no more have army hegemony, have less man than PRC and bad technology than PRC. Your government enforce or we enforce, this is choice you for to make.
        mnouquet 6y ago
        We will meet on the battlefield in the looming civil war, then.

That is a good point, maybe something like one-child policy better serve this need. Or possibly we must consider which is worse for animals, damage from climate change or damage from endocrine disruptor.

JulianMorrison 6y ago
The answer is neither. Human energy use that causes climate harms can be replaced with renewables. Fuel can be replaced with batteries. In the longer term, the sun is absolutely pouring out energy, which largely goes to waste, and a Dyson swarm capturing a small fraction of that would satisfy the energy needs of a much larger population.
- da_big_ghey 6y ago
  These are not solving land impact of human. We must have fewer human or live in smal space like in Tokyo and others city like it. Most human no have desire to do this. Batery take resources like lithium more than we have. Maybe Dyson swarm eating star energy output cause climate change of its own, fewer energy reaching earth surface. There is always impacts that human create. We only can for truly mitigate climate change with reducing human numbers. One action we take for to reduce impact create impact again in one other place. We swalow spider to catch fly and continue on each and again. One child policy is the forebest way for to accomplish.
  - mnouquet 6y ago
    > We only can for truly mitigate climate change with reducing human numbers. Then you should welcome pandemic, genocide and war.
    - da_big_ghey 6y ago
      they are having some positive efect in long enough view. also they are having sufering first. best is not to have as much persons born.
- mnouquet 6y ago
  > Human energy use that causes climate harms can be replaced with renewables No, it can't.
mnouquet 6y ago
> one-child policy better serve this need Over my cold dead body [and I won't go without a fight.].
- da_big_ghey 6y ago
  This more extreme usonian gun and freedom idea. If government say you have only one child you hav xr15 rifle not help. you people no can be trust with guns, ability to have as many children as wanted, others. you try use them to continue kill planet. you no have freedom to keep breeding kill other country with climate change. US having more children is externality it not pay. the US days of telling world around and doing what desire is over.
  - mnouquet 6y ago
    > If government say you have only one child you hav xr15 rifle not help What are they gonna do, line me up and execute me and my family ? Kill my children ? Fortunately, Rights are still a thing, including the 2nd.
    - da_big_ghey 6y ago
      This is not in need. Fining confiscateing properties limiting from some good jobs all good consicuences. You have politician come to senses but slowly, you have democrat party finaly beat sense into your head on guns, sicund amendment be finaly rimoved. US no simply dictate to rest of world any more. If US continue cause climate change PRC enforce by army. US no more have army hegemony, have less man than PRC and bad technology than PRC. Your government enforce or we enforce, this is choice you for to make.
      - mnouquet 6y ago
        We will meet on the battlefield in the looming civil war, then.