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That's literally apples and vaccines. In the future you might as well not bother with such pointless digressions. Back on topic: recently read on CNN that the
by blub 6y ago
That's literally apples and vaccines. In the future you might as well not bother with such pointless digressions.
Back on topic: recently read on CNN that the UK contract's exactly the same as the EU one (best effort) and it was signed later than the EU one even if it was negotiated earlier.
If we combine that with the fact that the UK is not exporting any vaccine and the EU is, including to the UK, it seems to me that the EU was right to be upset with AZ and put pressure on them.
The UK is being selfish and trying to make the EU look like the bad guy.
- brigandish 6y agoIf you're unwilling to be civil and also unwilling to engage in the argument presented to you - even when made clear via analogy - then I'm not sure why you think anyone will bother to listen to you. > it seems to me that You've busted that flush.
- blub 6y agoThe UK is currently not exporting vaccines and there are no countries which are receiving vaccines from the UK. This is what OP claimed and there is only one argument that can be made against that: a list of countries where the UK or the US is exporting vaccines. By now it should be clear to anyone reading this far that you can't provide that.
- brigandish 6y ago> This is what OP claimed No, this is what the OP claimed: > It is the US + UK that are blocking all exports As to this: > there is only one argument that can be made against that Again - no, there are other arguments against that, the best being that black and white thinking is a terrible way to analyse reality, the second best being that a list was provided above of medicines blocked for export by the UK and no SARS-COV-2 vaccines are on it. If the logic evades you further it may help to ask a question: which vaccines are you exporting and is it because you are blocking exports? That should make it clear that there are more possible reasons for exports not to happen than their being intentionally blocked.
- blub 6y agoHuman beings are able to move past the narrow meaning of specific words and look at the bigger picture, which is that vaccines are neither leaving the UK, nor reaching other countries. This is the measure that will be used to judge the UK. Whether the vaccine is on some list may be an aggravating factor, but it's otherwise immaterial.
- brigandish 6y ago> Human beings are able to move past the narrow meaning of specific words How convenient. Considering you claimed one thing that was false and are now claiming another thing that is also false but would help make your original claim true because you say so, I think I'll stick with the "narrow" form of interpretation that humans have managed so well with up till now. > This is the measure that will be used to judge the UK. Only by those with such strong prejudices that it requires a reimagining of the English language and of logic to help protect them from having to re-examine their notions. > Whether the vaccine is on some list may be an aggravating factor, but it's otherwise immaterial. Unless you have evidence of the vaccine being blocked then it is material indeed, however inconvenient that is for you. Feel free to supply actual evidence of the vaccine being blocked that goes beyond "because I say so" and doesn't require pushing words beyond their actual meaning.
- blub 6y agoVaccines are neither leaving the UK, nor reaching other countries.
- brigandish 6y agoI’m also not going to or leaving the UK and there’s no blocking going on. Have you noticed the lack of logical necessity in your argument yet?
- blub 6y agoYes, and if someone were to wait for you and need you outside the UK you would not be there for them. Just like the vaccine.