If you don't want to discuss China, then you can look at Australia and New Zealand, both of which brought incidence down to near zero. But there's no reason no

If you don't want to discuss China, then you can look at Australia and New Zealand, both of which brought incidence down to near zero. But there's no reason not to discuss China. It's the elephant in the room. A country of 1.4 billion people essentially ended community transmission and then opened up society again. > I disagree. There's nothing to disagree or agree about. The virus is not 500x more deadly in the US than in China. That's a fact, whether or not you agree. The overwhelming factor is simply the number of people who get infected in the first place.