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Yepp, most western schools are more a social ladder creation apparatus than educational institutions. The scandinavian school system takes a very different appr

Yepp, most western schools are more a social ladder creation apparatus than educational institutions. The scandinavian school system takes a very different approach. It's worth to have a look.

rgblambda 6y ago
Could you maybe give a short explanation to how Scandinavian schools answer the bullying problem? I can't find anything that directly answers that question.
- rawland 6y ago
  This movie captures it very well: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3215346/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3215346/ Trailer [en]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_-KrJseVUo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_-KrJseVUo It's very hard to describe shortly... maybe: They start with you as human being first. Abilities and talents to be discovered and developing a humane human who can face the world. They don't treat you like an animal in industrial livestock farming. It has many layers to it, e.g., regular teachers and kindergarden personnel have the social standing of a Professor in your country (assuming 1st world not scand). Teaching the young is understood (like REALLY understood) as one of the most important things a country can do for its future.
  - rgblambda 6y ago
    I'm still not seeing how this addresses school bullying in particular. I only watched the trailer though. I've heard all these things about the scandinavian school system before. Bullying never came up as a topic.
    - rawland 6y ago
      What follows from the movie is that there are multi-professional teams at work. That is, they don't have one teacher who decides about things and especially the fate of the individual pupil but teams containing, e.g., psychologists who decide about things in the regular day to day business. Of course bullying is an issue there, too. It is pronounced wherever you have esp. social inequality, and minimizing only works approximately. However, they are thinking about this in a progressive and especially compile-ahead-of-time way. The first research on bullying emerged in the 1970ies from these countries actually. See: https://go.gale.com/ps/anonymous?id=GALE|A75022135 https://go.gale.com/ps/anonymous?id=GALE|A75022135
      - rgblambda 6y ago
        Okay I quite like this approach (assuming I understood it correctly). Instead of a teacher whose job is primarily to educate, having to juggle the job of the emotional development of students that they will always see as a secondary task, there's a professional who is trained for that role who works directly for the school.

Yepp, most western schools are more a social ladder creation apparatus than educational institutions. The scandinavian school system takes a very different approach. It's worth to have a look.

rgblambda 6y ago

Could you maybe give a short explanation to how Scandinavian schools answer the bullying problem? I can't find anything that directly answers that question.

rawland 6y ago
This movie captures it very well: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3215346/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3215346/ Trailer [en]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_-KrJseVUo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_-KrJseVUo It's very hard to describe shortly... maybe: They start with you as human being first. Abilities and talents to be discovered and developing a humane human who can face the world. They don't treat you like an animal in industrial livestock farming. It has many layers to it, e.g., regular teachers and kindergarden personnel have the social standing of a Professor in your country (assuming 1st world not scand). Teaching the young is understood (like REALLY understood) as one of the most important things a country can do for its future.
- rgblambda 6y ago
  I'm still not seeing how this addresses school bullying in particular. I only watched the trailer though. I've heard all these things about the scandinavian school system before. Bullying never came up as a topic.
  - rawland 6y ago
    What follows from the movie is that there are multi-professional teams at work. That is, they don't have one teacher who decides about things and especially the fate of the individual pupil but teams containing, e.g., psychologists who decide about things in the regular day to day business. Of course bullying is an issue there, too. It is pronounced wherever you have esp. social inequality, and minimizing only works approximately. However, they are thinking about this in a progressive and especially compile-ahead-of-time way. The first research on bullying emerged in the 1970ies from these countries actually. See: https://go.gale.com/ps/anonymous?id=GALE|A75022135 https://go.gale.com/ps/anonymous?id=GALE|A75022135
    - rgblambda 6y ago
      Okay I quite like this approach (assuming I understood it correctly). Instead of a teacher whose job is primarily to educate, having to juggle the job of the emotional development of students that they will always see as a secondary task, there's a professional who is trained for that role who works directly for the school.