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Covid wasn't caused by meat production, it was caused by shitty hygiene. That's why the West eats so much meat and creates so few diseases. What we need is more

Covid wasn't caused by meat production, it was caused by shitty hygiene. That's why the West eats so much meat and creates so few diseases. What we need is more places to take on hygienic supply chains and so reduce bush meat and wet market participation.

loveistheanswer 6y ago
Fact check: we still don't know what caused covid to jump to humans.
- LatteLazy 6y ago
  We don't "know", but it is agreed that it's overwhelmingly likely. It is possible it came from a lab, but that's pretty far down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole...
  - loveistheanswer 6y ago
    Fact check: lab leaks are not "conspiracy theories", they are historical facts. For instance, in 2014, the US had 3 different lab leaks involving smallpox, anthrax, and bird flu, which led to a ban on gain of function research. https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/3/20/18260669/deadly-pathogens-escape-lab-smallpox-bird-flu https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/3/20/18260669/deadly...
    - LatteLazy 6y ago
      I know they happen, I just think it's incredibly unlikely. So you need some evidence otherwise we go with the most likely explanation... Out of interest, do you know, has anyone ever leaked an engineered bio weapon? The examples are always for naturally occurring pathogens...
      - loveistheanswer 6y ago
        >I just think it's incredibly unlikely. Why do you think its incredibly unlikely, when the facts of recent decades have shown lab leaks to be much more likely to happen than outbreaks of novel, highly adapted, highly transmissible viruses? >So you need some evidence otherwise we go with the most likely explanation... The initial evidence is undeniable: an extremely transmissible novel coronavirus is found outside of 1 of only 2 BSL4 labs in China; a lab where scientists were making extremely transmissible novel coronaviruses. Unfortunately, it's impossible to investigate and gather further evidence when governments agents with guns hide evidence and prevent investigators from accessing the scene of the incident.[1] >Out of interest, do you know, has anyone ever leaked an engineered bio weapon? The examples are always for naturally occurring pathogens... There have been incidents where the pathogen leaked was "undisclosed". Gain of function research is kept top secret for obvious reasons. [1]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sverdlovsk_anthrax_leak https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sverdlovsk_anthrax_leak

loveistheanswer 6y ago

Fact check: we still don't know what caused covid to jump to humans.

LatteLazy 6y ago
We don't "know", but it is agreed that it's overwhelmingly likely. It is possible it came from a lab, but that's pretty far down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole...
- loveistheanswer 6y ago
  Fact check: lab leaks are not "conspiracy theories", they are historical facts. For instance, in 2014, the US had 3 different lab leaks involving smallpox, anthrax, and bird flu, which led to a ban on gain of function research. https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/3/20/18260669/deadly-pathogens-escape-lab-smallpox-bird-flu https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/3/20/18260669/deadly...
  - LatteLazy 6y ago
    I know they happen, I just think it's incredibly unlikely. So you need some evidence otherwise we go with the most likely explanation... Out of interest, do you know, has anyone ever leaked an engineered bio weapon? The examples are always for naturally occurring pathogens...
    - loveistheanswer 6y ago
      >I just think it's incredibly unlikely. Why do you think its incredibly unlikely, when the facts of recent decades have shown lab leaks to be much more likely to happen than outbreaks of novel, highly adapted, highly transmissible viruses? >So you need some evidence otherwise we go with the most likely explanation... The initial evidence is undeniable: an extremely transmissible novel coronavirus is found outside of 1 of only 2 BSL4 labs in China; a lab where scientists were making extremely transmissible novel coronaviruses. Unfortunately, it's impossible to investigate and gather further evidence when governments agents with guns hide evidence and prevent investigators from accessing the scene of the incident.[1] >Out of interest, do you know, has anyone ever leaked an engineered bio weapon? The examples are always for naturally occurring pathogens... There have been incidents where the pathogen leaked was "undisclosed". Gain of function research is kept top secret for obvious reasons. [1]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sverdlovsk_anthrax_leak https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sverdlovsk_anthrax_leak