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Developer here in case anyone has any questions.

xiaolingxiao 6y ago
Repost: can I ask how you use PubNub with Agora? As in what specific thing does PubNub do to help you communicate state information that you can't do by writing to a (say firebase) backend.
- grishka 6y ago
  They do different things. Agora is an RTC platform. PubNub is, as I understood it, a glorified websocket, which is used for realtime updates, like people joining and leaving a room. I have no idea why they chose this particular stack.
  - xiaolingxiao 6y ago
    Yeah I'm using Agora for my project, as for real time update I find updating a state in firebase on one end and adding a listener on the other end to be "realtime" enough. So i'm trying to figure out what I'm missing, and the PubNub website is not very elucidating.
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DyslexicAtheist 6y ago
got a couple: why does it send traffic to China? why is audio sent over unencrypted UDP in 2021? who in their right minds would want to listen to footage of what are essentially meeting recordings. I get why people who are enchanted by their own voice, and want to get on it to hear themselves talk, but why on earth would anyone else want to listen to boring audio of people dialogue. it sounds flippant but it's an honest question. the ratio of those who derive utility from this is skewed tremendously toward the speaker (not the listener) why no ADA compliance? why the unenforcable ToS? why no sane way for users to unsubscribe from the service? (not compliant with GDPR)
- oarsinsync 6y ago
  I think you're confusing the developer of an unofficial client for a service, with being a developer of the service itself. Those are all good questions for someone who works at the service in question. I just don't think the person you're responding to is that person.
sashachepurnoi 6y ago
How do you get your initial take on API? I tried to do the mitm and observe the API calls but did not succeed. Do not have JB iphone, so I am curious how did you get the URIs
- grishka 6y ago
  There's another project[1] with the reverse engineered API in python and a blog post in Korean, so I used that as my reference. [1] https://github.com/stypr/clubhouse-py https://github.com/stypr/clubhouse-py

Repost: can I ask how you use PubNub with Agora? As in what specific thing does PubNub do to help you communicate state information that you can't do by writing to a (say firebase) backend.

grishka 6y ago
They do different things. Agora is an RTC platform. PubNub is, as I understood it, a glorified websocket, which is used for realtime updates, like people joining and leaving a room. I have no idea why they chose this particular stack.
- xiaolingxiao 6y ago
  Yeah I'm using Agora for my project, as for real time update I find updating a state in firebase on one end and adding a listener on the other end to be "realtime" enough. So i'm trying to figure out what I'm missing, and the PubNub website is not very elucidating.
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DyslexicAtheist 6y ago

got a couple: why does it send traffic to China? why is audio sent over unencrypted UDP in 2021? who in their right minds would want to listen to footage of what are essentially meeting recordings. I get why people who are enchanted by their own voice, and want to get on it to hear themselves talk, but why on earth would anyone else want to listen to boring audio of people dialogue. it sounds flippant but it's an honest question. the ratio of those who derive utility from this is skewed tremendously toward the speaker (not the listener) why no ADA compliance? why the unenforcable ToS? why no sane way for users to unsubscribe from the service? (not compliant with GDPR)

oarsinsync 6y ago
I think you're confusing the developer of an unofficial client for a service, with being a developer of the service itself. Those are all good questions for someone who works at the service in question. I just don't think the person you're responding to is that person.

sashachepurnoi 6y ago

How do you get your initial take on API? I tried to do the mitm and observe the API calls but did not succeed. Do not have JB iphone, so I am curious how did you get the URIs

grishka 6y ago
There's another project[1] with the reverse engineered API in python and a blog post in Korean, so I used that as my reference. [1] https://github.com/stypr/clubhouse-py https://github.com/stypr/clubhouse-py