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If we're spitballing tinfoil type stuff, I'd guess it's in the NSA's interest to have American OS's like MacOS be as secure as possible. I'm sure they have acce

If we're spitballing tinfoil type stuff, I'd guess it's in the NSA's interest to have American OS's like MacOS be as secure as possible. I'm sure they have access to any of Apple's certificate chains, cloud data, and could decrypt a Macbook as well as Apple could, but I don't see known software backdoors being desirable.

seniorivn 6y ago
you would think that a sane national security strategy is to maximize security of every citizen, but somehow nsa prefers to undermine everyone else's security to have a chance to hack anyone and everyone
- rightbyte 6y ago
  Intelligence and counter-intelligence in the same org is not something strange really.
  - mhh__ 6y ago
    That and they've always been fairly strongly linked in the past anyway - the kind of sexy counter-intelligence has always greatly benefitted from a good offense.
- nojito 6y ago
  >you would think that a sane national security strategy is to maximize security of every citizen exploiting adversaries is also a way to protect your citizens.
- antibuddy 6y ago
  That indeed makes sense, but sometimes one hand doesn't know what the other does. Also not all decisions are rational (actually it's the other way around). A better example for this is the FBI tho, since they really hate any security mechanism that plebs can use. I'm not saying that the NSA has any involvement in this situation, but clearly their strategy is sometimes to undermine security. It's not their whole schtick, because of NOBUS, but still part of it.
cookie_monsta 6y ago
Does Windows count as an American OS? https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2017/07/zero-day_vulner.html https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2017/07/zero-day_vuln... Really, the NSA's history of hoarding zero days is so well documented by now that it's surprising to see the tinfoil trope get wheeled out.

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If we're spitballing tinfoil type stuff, I'd guess it's in the NSA's interest to have American OS's like MacOS be as secure as possible. I'm sure they have acce

by hackerbrother 6y ago

seniorivn 6y ago
you would think that a sane national security strategy is to maximize security of every citizen, but somehow nsa prefers to undermine everyone else's security to have a chance to hack anyone and everyone
- rightbyte 6y ago
  Intelligence and counter-intelligence in the same org is not something strange really.
  - mhh__ 6y ago
    That and they've always been fairly strongly linked in the past anyway - the kind of sexy counter-intelligence has always greatly benefitted from a good offense.
- nojito 6y ago
  >you would think that a sane national security strategy is to maximize security of every citizen exploiting adversaries is also a way to protect your citizens.
- antibuddy 6y ago
  That indeed makes sense, but sometimes one hand doesn't know what the other does. Also not all decisions are rational (actually it's the other way around). A better example for this is the FBI tho, since they really hate any security mechanism that plebs can use. I'm not saying that the NSA has any involvement in this situation, but clearly their strategy is sometimes to undermine security. It's not their whole schtick, because of NOBUS, but still part of it.
cookie_monsta 6y ago
Does Windows count as an American OS? https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2017/07/zero-day_vulner.html https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2017/07/zero-day_vuln... Really, the NSA's history of hoarding zero days is so well documented by now that it's surprising to see the tinfoil trope get wheeled out.