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Both linux and windows seem to be stagnating. Windows died when they decided to stop making new versions. How can you innovate without scrapping the old stuff?
by dsego 6y ago
Both linux and windows seem to be stagnating. Windows died when they decided to stop making new versions. How can you innovate without scrapping the old stuff? Linux was always a mishmash of poor and top notch things cobbled together. At least windows had some coherent design philosophy but that's not the case anymore. It's like they have just given up.
- ChrisSD 6y agoWindows brings out a new version every six months. This is a much faster rate of development than the old "every three years" or more.
- dsego 6y agoIt's not a new version if they keep the old cruft and just pile on new code. I mean a real new version built from the ground up.
- ChrisSD 6y agoThey've never really done a real new version built from the ground up. Well not since Windows NT (in 1993) and Windows 95. I guess you could argue that Vista was a big overhaul but that took a long time and was still NT. The Windows 10 way is more like OS X or Ubuntu with incremental changes over time. And they do remove or replace things in new Windows versions. They even tried removing Paint but that got a lot of push back from people. Sometimes they only remove things for new installs but other times they replace things for everyone, like the screenshot tool or Edge with Chromium based Edge.
- herodoturtle 6y agoWhich distro(s) of Linux have you been using that you find it to be stagnating? My experience has been the complete opposite.
- dsego 6y agoI can't really understand the obsession with distros, they all still use pretty much the same packages and few different desktop environments. Most likely if some piece of hardware won't work on one distro it won't work on others. If a nice tool/app exists on one distro you can find it for others. And Gimp is still sh*t on all of them. There is barely any new software and there hasn't been for the last decade or so. Apart from programming tools and command-line stuff. But desktop computing seems to be stuck in the 2000s in general.
- timbit42 6y agoTry Krita instead of Gimp
- dsego 6y agoI think Krita is primarily a painting program, not a photo manipulation tool.
- herodoturtle 6y agoSorry I didn't mean to imply an obsession. I'm a relatively high-level Linux user so I was just wondering what you were referring too. Your comment cleared that up though - thanks. My surface level impression of Ubuntu's innovation since I started using it around 2005 is that its interface usability and driver support has improved consistently - but I can totally see what you mean about the lack of improvements in the applications themselves. I do hear that gaming on Linux has improved quite a bit but I'm admittedly not much of a gamer these days so I can't comment.