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Timnit and her supporters are toxic. Can you imagine calling out your manager of manager on Twitter like this? https://twitter.com/timnitGebru/status/12785696

Timnit and her supporters are toxic. Can you imagine calling out your manager of manager on Twitter like this? https://twitter.com/timnitGebru/status/1278569638532530177 https://twitter.com/timnitGebru/status/1278569638532530177 Like wtf. This happened 6 months before Timnit was fired. I would absolutely not work with this person if they behaved like Timnit. She and her supporters are absolutely fired for being toxic. They are playing martyr.

loopz 6y ago
This tweet, what's wrong about it? Timnit Gebru Jul 2, 2020 Yep generally you did, thanks. But not about me, Deb and others being attacked by White supremacists, anonymous accounts etc. Clear support means taking a clear stand. And this doesn’t seem to be ending.
- cecja 6y ago
  You know you can talk about things like that in private and don't have to use a twitter horde to make your argument because you are providing none.
- ergocoder 6y ago
  Why would you call out your colleague to take a public stand? You really don't see anything wrong with it? Wut? And if he didn't, the implication would be that he was racist, basically. Timnit doesn't take a stand on blacks attacking Asians on twitter either. Is she racist against Asians? Now let's go through 1000 other issues in the world! So, yeah, this whole charade of calling out your colleague to tweet about your cause on twitter is highly toxic.
  - loopz 6y ago
    They are both engaging on Twitter, and I don't see any calling out. Unless you find a good quote, that is just discussing, as adults should. It may be bad choice on them both professionally, but you're singling out one..
    - ergocoder 6y ago
      Because she mentioned Jeff Dean first. Then, Jeff needed to ask what this was about. Then, Jeff ended with "personal attack is not okay". Like huh? At this point, we might as well ask Jeff to tweet that the earth is round. Otherwise, we would call him a flat earther. This isn't called "engaging" when one side would assume you were racist if you didn't tweet to support their cause. The word you are looking for is strongarming. The whole convo is just cringe.
      - loopz 6y ago
        Somehow the feed didn't scroll up as far as it did now. I see some other posts before those I saw first. But that just confirms it, it's better to totally ignore any drama on Twitter, which also news organisations need to learn. Who said what, in an online forum, is just not newsworthy.
        ergocoder 6y ago
        I mean it would be hard to ignore when that person was your colleague... I'm sure, if it was a random person ,Jeff would have ignored
tehwebguy 6y ago
> I would absolutely not work with this person What would that look like, would you quit? Give your boss an ultimatum? Something else?
- ergocoder 6y ago
  To be real, I'd slowly move away and look for other projects that don't involve her. If I was her boss, then, yeah, I'd probably want her to transfer away. She called out her boss to take a stand in public against racism. It somewhat implies that Jeff Dean may not be against racism. It's a really toxic tweet.

loopz 6y ago

This tweet, what's wrong about it? Timnit Gebru Jul 2, 2020 Yep generally you did, thanks. But not about me, Deb and others being attacked by White supremacists, anonymous accounts etc. Clear support means taking a clear stand. And this doesn’t seem to be ending.

cecja 6y ago
You know you can talk about things like that in private and don't have to use a twitter horde to make your argument because you are providing none.
ergocoder 6y ago
Why would you call out your colleague to take a public stand? You really don't see anything wrong with it? Wut? And if he didn't, the implication would be that he was racist, basically. Timnit doesn't take a stand on blacks attacking Asians on twitter either. Is she racist against Asians? Now let's go through 1000 other issues in the world! So, yeah, this whole charade of calling out your colleague to tweet about your cause on twitter is highly toxic.
- loopz 6y ago
  They are both engaging on Twitter, and I don't see any calling out. Unless you find a good quote, that is just discussing, as adults should. It may be bad choice on them both professionally, but you're singling out one..
  - ergocoder 6y ago
    Because she mentioned Jeff Dean first. Then, Jeff needed to ask what this was about. Then, Jeff ended with "personal attack is not okay". Like huh? At this point, we might as well ask Jeff to tweet that the earth is round. Otherwise, we would call him a flat earther. This isn't called "engaging" when one side would assume you were racist if you didn't tweet to support their cause. The word you are looking for is strongarming. The whole convo is just cringe.
    - loopz 6y ago
      Somehow the feed didn't scroll up as far as it did now. I see some other posts before those I saw first. But that just confirms it, it's better to totally ignore any drama on Twitter, which also news organisations need to learn. Who said what, in an online forum, is just not newsworthy.
      - ergocoder 6y ago
        I mean it would be hard to ignore when that person was your colleague... I'm sure, if it was a random person ,Jeff would have ignored

tehwebguy 6y ago

> I would absolutely not work with this person What would that look like, would you quit? Give your boss an ultimatum? Something else?

ergocoder 6y ago
To be real, I'd slowly move away and look for other projects that don't involve her. If I was her boss, then, yeah, I'd probably want her to transfer away. She called out her boss to take a stand in public against racism. It somewhat implies that Jeff Dean may not be against racism. It's a really toxic tweet.