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It’s now listed in the blockchain and universally recognized by the world that you are the rightful owner of the work. No it’s not. Anyone could have put an ar

It’s now listed in the blockchain and universally recognized by the world that you are the rightful owner of the work. No it’s not. Anyone could have put an artwork on the blockchain, even if it’s not theirs. Just because Alice uploaded an artwork doesn’t prove rule out the possibility that Bob was the creator. Blockchains cannot link to the physical world while keeping their properties of ‘proofs’, yet so many projects seem to ignore this inconvenient fact.

molsongolden 6y ago
Lots of work happening now on decentralized oracles to solve this problem.
- joosters 6y ago
  I guess that’s an admission that this current blockchain concept is flawed as it stands, right? I’ve yet to see any truly decentralised oracle either...
  - nigerian-craft 6y ago
    > I’ve yet to see any truly decentralised oracle These are relatively common in theory and practice. - uniswap v2 oracles: https://uniswap.org/docs/v2/core-concepts/oracles/ https://uniswap.org/docs/v2/core-concepts/oracles/ - chainlink: https://docs.chain.link/docs/using-chainlink-reference-contracts https://docs.chain.link/docs/using-chainlink-reference-contr... - schelling point oracles: https://blog.ethereum.org/2014/03/28/schellingcoin-a-minimal-trust-universal-data-feed/ https://blog.ethereum.org/2014/03/28/schellingcoin-a-minimal...
miracle2k 6y ago
This is not attempting to prove something previously unknown, or resolve an active uncertainty of authorship. But if an artist claims ownership over a work/token, and collective history remembers and validates that claim, then you can prove that you own that token.
- joosters 6y ago
  If something is already known and collectively validated by history, then you don’t need a blockchain to prove anything. Conversely, it is the previously unknown things that would most need some confirmation of authorship, yet here the blockchain concept fails again!
  - miracle2k 6y ago
    We need it to prove ownership (of digital things), not authorship.

molsongolden 6y ago

Lots of work happening now on decentralized oracles to solve this problem.

joosters 6y ago
I guess that’s an admission that this current blockchain concept is flawed as it stands, right? I’ve yet to see any truly decentralised oracle either...
- nigerian-craft 6y ago
  > I’ve yet to see any truly decentralised oracle These are relatively common in theory and practice. - uniswap v2 oracles: https://uniswap.org/docs/v2/core-concepts/oracles/ https://uniswap.org/docs/v2/core-concepts/oracles/ - chainlink: https://docs.chain.link/docs/using-chainlink-reference-contracts https://docs.chain.link/docs/using-chainlink-reference-contr... - schelling point oracles: https://blog.ethereum.org/2014/03/28/schellingcoin-a-minimal-trust-universal-data-feed/ https://blog.ethereum.org/2014/03/28/schellingcoin-a-minimal...

miracle2k 6y ago

This is not attempting to prove something previously unknown, or resolve an active uncertainty of authorship. But if an artist claims ownership over a work/token, and collective history remembers and validates that claim, then you can prove that you own that token.

joosters 6y ago
If something is already known and collectively validated by history, then you don’t need a blockchain to prove anything. Conversely, it is the previously unknown things that would most need some confirmation of authorship, yet here the blockchain concept fails again!
- miracle2k 6y ago
  We need it to prove ownership (of digital things), not authorship.