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I'm not familiar with the medicinal uses of rhubarb, but cinchona is the source for quinine. Weirdly, the only link I can readily find in the article to a sour

I'm not familiar with the medicinal uses of rhubarb, but cinchona is the source for quinine. Weirdly, the only link I can readily find in the article to a source talking about the medicinal uses of cinnamon is an ancient text where I can't even readily parse what language it is in. https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/463727#page/178/mode/1up https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/463727#page/178/mod... That's perhaps intentional given how up in arms people get if you actually discuss medicinal uses of plants. This article merely discusses the history of the monopoly on "true" cinnamon and some of the reasons for it, not actual medicinal uses. I find it very weird how uptight people are about this. I mean if you know plants that get used in your diet can have medicinal impact, intentional ignorance on the topic seems to be a really bizarre policy to pursue. Yet that seems to be how the world mostly works in relation to such things.

pampa 6y ago
> is an ancient text where I can't even readily parse what language it is in. It is Hortus Malabaricus, it is in latin and its not really ancient, it was published in late 17-th century.
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- thaumasiotes 6y ago
  The linked page is an image which appears to be labeled with the name of the plant in four different languages, which I would guess are Latin ("Lat."), Malay ("Mal."), Arabic ("Arab."), and Sanskrit ("Bram.", which based on the following page appears to be "lingua Bramanum", which I assume is "the tongue of the Brahmins".) The text is definitely Latin, but some things about it look odd to me. (I'm looking at page 107, right after the linked drawing.) Do you know what the circumflexes and graves signify? The E in maximè is long, but so are unmarked Es in habEtur, rubEscente, and diffundEnsque. And the Us in verùm and cùm are short. The circumflexes appear to be much rarer, but I see "sub eâ". That could be a helpful way to set off the ablative case from the nominative, but later down on the page I see "Folia cùm bina", unmarked.
  - pampa 6y ago
    "Mal." is likely Malayalam, a dravidic language from the indian subcontinent, not Malay (Austronesian language). My Latin is quite rusty, its been a long time since i studied it. But from what i remember there were several flavors, which had slightly different grammar, orthography and vocabulary. Wikipedia confirms this - there is at least classical Latin, church Latin, New Latin (16-19c), Contemporary Latin (19c onward). Hortus Malabaricus is written in New Latin.
    - thaumasiotes 6y ago
      > "Mal." is likely Malayalam, a dravidic language from the indian subcontinent, not Malay (Austronesian language). Looks like you're right.
fuzzfactor 6y ago
>talking about the medicinal uses of cinnamon These may be of interest: https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/cinnamon-and-diabetes https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/cinnamon-and-diabetes (2017) https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/10-proven-benefits-of-cinnamon#TOC_TITLE_HDR_12 https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/10-proven-benefits-of-c... (2018) https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/21/health/cinnamon-prediabetes-wellness/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/21/health/cinnamon-prediabet... (2020)
- DoreenMichele 6y ago
  I've had two hours of sleep. I don't know how to say this politely, but I wasn't really asking for sources on cinnamon. (Yes, I realize my comment can be interpreted that way.) Sorry for the misunderstanding.
  - fuzzfactor 6y ago
    I guess I'm still with you almost 100 percent then :)

pampa 6y ago

> is an ancient text where I can't even readily parse what language it is in. It is Hortus Malabaricus, it is in latin and its not really ancient, it was published in late 17-th century.

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thaumasiotes 6y ago
The linked page is an image which appears to be labeled with the name of the plant in four different languages, which I would guess are Latin ("Lat."), Malay ("Mal."), Arabic ("Arab."), and Sanskrit ("Bram.", which based on the following page appears to be "lingua Bramanum", which I assume is "the tongue of the Brahmins".) The text is definitely Latin, but some things about it look odd to me. (I'm looking at page 107, right after the linked drawing.) Do you know what the circumflexes and graves signify? The E in maximè is long, but so are unmarked Es in habEtur, rubEscente, and diffundEnsque. And the Us in verùm and cùm are short. The circumflexes appear to be much rarer, but I see "sub eâ". That could be a helpful way to set off the ablative case from the nominative, but later down on the page I see "Folia cùm bina", unmarked.
- pampa 6y ago
  "Mal." is likely Malayalam, a dravidic language from the indian subcontinent, not Malay (Austronesian language). My Latin is quite rusty, its been a long time since i studied it. But from what i remember there were several flavors, which had slightly different grammar, orthography and vocabulary. Wikipedia confirms this - there is at least classical Latin, church Latin, New Latin (16-19c), Contemporary Latin (19c onward). Hortus Malabaricus is written in New Latin.
  - thaumasiotes 6y ago
    > "Mal." is likely Malayalam, a dravidic language from the indian subcontinent, not Malay (Austronesian language). Looks like you're right.

fuzzfactor 6y ago

>talking about the medicinal uses of cinnamon These may be of interest: https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/cinnamon-and-diabetes https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/cinnamon-and-diabetes (2017) https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/10-proven-benefits-of-cinnamon#TOC_TITLE_HDR_12 https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/10-proven-benefits-of-c... (2018) https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/21/health/cinnamon-prediabetes-wellness/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/21/health/cinnamon-prediabet... (2020)

DoreenMichele 6y ago
I've had two hours of sleep. I don't know how to say this politely, but I wasn't really asking for sources on cinnamon. (Yes, I realize my comment can be interpreted that way.) Sorry for the misunderstanding.
- fuzzfactor 6y ago
  I guess I'm still with you almost 100 percent then :)