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Dropbox Passwords
- ohmywhat 6y agoI was a little confused as to whether or not this was new because there's no date on the page. Looks like a beta happened in 2020? https://www.forbes.com/sites/barrycollins/2020/06/05/dropbox-password-manager/?sh=706bd23633f1 https://www.forbes.com/sites/barrycollins/2020/06/05/dropbox...
- TheChaplain 6y agoIt's a nice addition but the Dropbox pricing is a bit out of touch IMHO. I mean look at Office365 and you get so much more for a comparable price, or?
- Daneel_ 6y agoExactly. The entry-level tier is far too much to entice users in. They need to introduce a $5/month tier with 100-250GB to get people on board. I’d sign up in a heartbeat at that price point, but I can’t justify $20+ a month for some cloud storage with sync. I know they’re primarily targeting business users with their features and pricing structure, but it doesn’t mean they should alienate the general user base - one day, someone from that user base will be the one signing the business deals, and they’ll go with what they’ve previously used and trust.
- EdwinLarkin 6y agoThis is some bullshit right here.Most of us spend $10 a day on crap.Why is paying for software that is useful so "I cant justify it?". We need to realize that paying for software is something we have to do otherwise we will end up being the products.
- vmurthy 6y agoNot OP. Part of the reason I don't feel like spending $10 for this particular software (I pay for quite a bit of software every month FWIW) is the infinite variety that exists in the digital world : I could pay for OneDrive separately and 1Password separately and still have a few bucks left over. Or I could host something on S3 and use BitWarden for passwords .. you get the drift. The bigger point is that unlike the physical world where I am more or less limited by geography and time to buy "crap", I can pick and choose what I want to pay for. In this particular case, I think the AUD 19 for Dropbox (Plus or whatever it is called) is way too steep for the use it provides.
- EdwinLarkin 6y agoWe IT workers are one of the most privileged people on planet earth.We earn a lot of money and can work from anywhere and yet we have decided to be manipulated by the Big Corporations to do the wrong thing. Behind every open source project is a qualified individual that is doing something else and is paid well.Instead of working on what matters to him and earning a livable wage he has to slave away for some shitty corporation that pays him to write meaningless software. We, the most privileged people have decided to vote with our wallets and we voted wrong. I dont say you have to pay for it no matter what.If you dont need it you dont pay for it but pretending the "price is too steep and you cant afford it" is just lying to yourself and to us.
- Daneel_ 6y agoExactly. I use KeePass for password management, and Dropbox for conveniently syncing a set of common files across my devices. It’s a convenience, but not a necessity. That’s worth something to me, but it’s not $20 a month of value. It’s more like $3-10, depending on volume of content. For more than $10 per month I would rather buy some hard drives and host it myself from home with nextcloud or similar. I have plenty fast enough internet for the task, so it’s simply a question of value. I don’t have a problem paying (and I do pay for plenty of services), but I need to be receiving value in return.
- prepend 6y agoImagine two arbitrary craps. Each costing $10. One includes unlimited use of Microsoft Office programs across all your computers and phones. Now imagine the one with office costs only $8. It’s not paying for software (although this is a service not software) it’s critically thinking about prices and comparing costs.
- astrophysics 6y agoAfter having individual files deleted repeatedly from Dropbox, I am not going anywhere near them again. Penetration testing is part of my job, and any PDFs related to that, keep being deleted. Why are they moderating my content? Never again.
- alpaca128 6y agoI also stopped using OneDrive when I discovered it automatically categorised uploaded files based on their content, including pictures. Aside from the creep factor and this making obvious that they have full access of everything, it also was not particularly accurate as expected from yet another AI system.
- livre 6y agoYou should expect any big cloud backups provider to have full access to your files, don't expect Google, Dropbox or Yandex to be any different than OneDrive. Use something like rclone[1] to upload encrypted backups. [1] https://rclone.org/ https://rclone.org/
- laserdancepony 6y agoDo you happen to have any source for this? I try to find information on Dropbox removing individual files, even supposedly "illegal" files, from one's account but can't find confirmation so far.
- begoon 6y agoIndeed. From my communication with Dropbox support: —- Katie, Feb 5, 8:56 AM PST: Hi Alexander, Thank you for contacting Dropbox. My name is Katie, and I will be helping you today. It appears that your links are disabled because you may be hosting malware from your account and this is against the terms of service. Can you please remove all malware from your account or your account will be disabled. Any further violations of the terms of service will result in the immediate deletion of your account with no warning. The file that needs to be removed from your Dropbox is: old-stuff.rar Once this has been addressed I would be happy to assist you further! Thank you. Regards, Katie The Dropbox Team
- mkskm 6y agoWasn't Dropbox planned to be part of the NSA's PRISM program back in 2013?
- probably_wrong 6y agoI know this is my bias showing, but with Condoleezza Rice as a member of the board I assume strict collaboration with the NSA a given.
- bitlevel 6y agoThat was the whole reason Dropbox became 'persona non grata' in my world.
- cybert00th 6y agoAnother also-ran password manager - stick to one thing and do it well Dropbox. Anything else is just a noisy distraction.
- vmurthy 6y agoWhile I may not exactly buy Dropbox plus, I think they're on an unfortunate treadmill competing with Google and MS and have to keep offering extra perks to justify the AUD 19 something per month cost so don't be surprised to find more features into Dropbox. I doubt they can just stick to one thing and do it well :(
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- Closi 6y agoNah, they need to pivot. There is no long term competitive advantage over OneDrive or Google Drive if they just focus on their existing product. Both Microsoft and Google can both probably can have a long term competitive advantage in this space because of Android / Windows / 365 / Azure and GCP.
- jbverschoor 6y agoyeah no. Dropbox has a good history of peaking, sharing and other things.
- jjbinx007 6y agoThis link summarises most of the major criticism of Dropbox: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Dropbox https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Dropbox There's enough there to not trust Dropbox with my data.
- flipcoder 6y agohttps://techcrunch.com/2011/06/20/dropbox-security-bug-made-passwords-optional-for-four-hours/ https://techcrunch.com/2011/06/20/dropbox-security-bug-made-... Remember this one?
- tim333 6y ago$120/yr for the cheapest. I think I'll stick with $0 for Bitwarden.
- dthul 6y agoIt's 120$ for 2TB of cloud storage which now happens to have password management. Bitwarden is a password manager with 1GB(?) of storage, so it's not a comparable offering.
- rbut 6y agoHow much do you really need for password management though? The occasional PDF with single-use 2FA keys is all I use the storage for.
- mStreamTeam 6y agoI use KeePass and Syncthing. $0 a year and and you don't need to store your password db on someone else's sever. https://syncthing.net/ https://syncthing.net/
- stunt 6y agoThanks, but no thanks.
- bennysonething 6y agoI use password safe as a password manager. https://www.schneier.com/academic/passsafe/#:~:text=With%20Password%20Safe%2C%20a%20free,fast%2C%20free%20alternative%20to%20DES https://www.schneier.com/academic/passsafe/#:~:text=With%20P.... I keep the file synced to all my devices with drop box. I do worry that I have a horrible single point of failure. But at least I know to read the file you need to know my pretty long password.
- biolurker1 6y agoWhat would be the failure here? File getting deleted and cannot be recovered eh?
- bennysonething 6y agoI guess a keylogger getting my password for the password manager.