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Someone asked you a question and you belittled them assuming worst intent. Please don't be THAT person. For one not everyone speaks english as a first language,

Someone asked you a question and you belittled them assuming worst intent. Please don't be THAT person. For one not everyone speaks english as a first language, two while i _think_ i understand what your getting at you picked a very obtuse way to phrase it and even i'm uncertain if i understand, three when speaking to a diverse audience from around the globe who probably are not aware of the language used when speaking about diversity you should default to simple clear explanations and language, not packing it all up into a dense phrase like that.

ggm 6y ago
I read their comment history. I know that's a bit doxxy but, they have a good grasp of wide ranging use of English. Your point is well made otherwise and I take it on board. I need to be more careful, thoughtful.
spoonjim 6y ago
Honestly I’m an extremely proficient English speaker and don’t know what that sentence was referring to, or trying to say.
- ggm 6y ago
  Google claimed to have higher regard for equity in the workplace and to correcting structural bias at all levels. The AI ethics people were meeting structural process and behaviour around their own work, which i believe they felt fundamentally contradicts that. They did not receive support to say it outside the company. Ultimately in at least one case, they probably broke their terms and conditions of employment and have been terminated. Looking at it from the perspective of what people say they expect from the modern workplace, it wasn't a good alignment. People expect equity. They expect to be able to speak their mind. Within limits people can and do, but some staff have found the informal rules of what you can say about Google were not what they think they wanted. Fired for cause, and at-will terms of employment are entirely normal. Nobody can seriously say Google broke the law, absent strong evidence. If you hire somebody to occupy a senior role, but constrain their ability to self assert, its a bit contradictory. What do you think society at large wants, from the entities which now control the vast majority of our private state as individuals?
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ggm 6y ago

I read their comment history. I know that's a bit doxxy but, they have a good grasp of wide ranging use of English. Your point is well made otherwise and I take it on board. I need to be more careful, thoughtful.

spoonjim 6y ago

Honestly I’m an extremely proficient English speaker and don’t know what that sentence was referring to, or trying to say.

ggm 6y ago
Google claimed to have higher regard for equity in the workplace and to correcting structural bias at all levels. The AI ethics people were meeting structural process and behaviour around their own work, which i believe they felt fundamentally contradicts that. They did not receive support to say it outside the company. Ultimately in at least one case, they probably broke their terms and conditions of employment and have been terminated. Looking at it from the perspective of what people say they expect from the modern workplace, it wasn't a good alignment. People expect equity. They expect to be able to speak their mind. Within limits people can and do, but some staff have found the informal rules of what you can say about Google were not what they think they wanted. Fired for cause, and at-will terms of employment are entirely normal. Nobody can seriously say Google broke the law, absent strong evidence. If you hire somebody to occupy a senior role, but constrain their ability to self assert, its a bit contradictory. What do you think society at large wants, from the entities which now control the vast majority of our private state as individuals?
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