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I wouldn't be surprised to find more companies shifting to a "leave politics and religion at the door" stance again: https://jakeseliger.com/2020/12/03/dissent-

I wouldn't be surprised to find more companies shifting to a "leave politics and religion at the door" stance again: https://jakeseliger.com/2020/12/03/dissent-insiders-and-outsiders https://jakeseliger.com/2020/12/03/dissent-insiders-and-outs...

wbl 6y ago
You can leave politics and religion at the door, but if you serve ham sandwiches at the Christmas party don't be surprised when people complain.
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- renewiltord 6y ago
  We have ham at Christmas. Now I've got this weird feeling I've been doing something that's a faux pas but I can't find a reference on the Internet anywhere. Why will people complain about the ham sandwiches?
  - scintill76 6y ago
    Maybe it’s that some people don’t eat ham for religion and some don’t celebrate Christmas?
    - bitcharmer 6y ago
      Well, isn't the simplest solution for them to not eat the ham sandwich or not attend a Christmas party if it's such a big problem for them? There will always be someone offended by anything you do. I'm atheist and have no problem celebrating Christmas or Diwali or whatever with my colleagues from work. I guess it entirely depends on the type of person you are.
  - wbl 6y ago
    Jews do not eat ham. They also don't celebrate Christmas. Having an office Christmas party and serving mostly ham is a great way to drive home exclusion. Or e.g. demanding people work late Fridays. Observant Jews absolutely, positively have to get home by sundown on Friday.
    - grumple 6y ago
      Many Jews (like me) will eat ham and happily celebrate at your Christmas party though. You’ll never please everyone.
      - pseudalopex 6y ago
        Would you celebrate any less happily if the holiday party had kosher food?
        skinkestek 6y ago
        Not a jew but an "observant christian": I'd in fact in many cases be less happy if they took away things from my colleagues to please me. I don't eat blood or strangled meat but don't mess up other people's celebrations and blame it on me. As long as I'm not forced to be part of it just give me something else that I like and I'm happy.
        pseudalopex 6y ago
        Having kosher food doesn't mean we can't have ham. People eat other things at Christmas anyway. And calling it a holiday party doesn't take anything away from anyone.
    - renewiltord 6y ago
      Ohhh, it's the double whammy of having a Christmas party at work and having the ham. I get it, I get it.
- zajio1am 6y ago
  > You can leave politics and religion at the door, but if you serve ham sandwiches at the Christmas party don't be surprised when people complain. If you leave religion at the door, you would not have Christmas party.
cobraetor 6y ago
Coinbase already took that stance. I'm not aware of any other companies that did. * https://blog.coinbase.com/coinbase-is-a-mission-focused-company-af882df8804 https://blog.coinbase.com/coinbase-is-a-mission-focused-comp... * https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2020/10/01/coinbase-wont-allow-discussions-of-politics-and-social-causes-at-work-if-employees-dont-like-it-theyre-free-to-leave/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2020/10/01/coinbase-w...
deanCommie 6y ago
Your "politics" is someone else's "fundamental human survival rights". The exact details matter from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. There are parts of the world where you can be fired for being gay. In most of the US where you can be fired for being trans. There are parts of the US where having TAMPONS in a women's bathroom is considered "political".
- pseudalopex 6y ago
  Firing someone for being trans is prohibited federally now FYI. The Supreme Court said it discriminates on the basis of sex.[1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R.G._%26_G.R._Harris_Funeral_Homes_Inc._v._Equal_Employment_Opportunity_Commission https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R.G._%26_G.R._Harris_Funeral_H...

wbl 6y ago

You can leave politics and religion at the door, but if you serve ham sandwiches at the Christmas party don't be surprised when people complain.

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renewiltord 6y ago
We have ham at Christmas. Now I've got this weird feeling I've been doing something that's a faux pas but I can't find a reference on the Internet anywhere. Why will people complain about the ham sandwiches?
- scintill76 6y ago
  Maybe it’s that some people don’t eat ham for religion and some don’t celebrate Christmas?
  - bitcharmer 6y ago
    Well, isn't the simplest solution for them to not eat the ham sandwich or not attend a Christmas party if it's such a big problem for them? There will always be someone offended by anything you do. I'm atheist and have no problem celebrating Christmas or Diwali or whatever with my colleagues from work. I guess it entirely depends on the type of person you are.
- wbl 6y ago
  Jews do not eat ham. They also don't celebrate Christmas. Having an office Christmas party and serving mostly ham is a great way to drive home exclusion. Or e.g. demanding people work late Fridays. Observant Jews absolutely, positively have to get home by sundown on Friday.
  - grumple 6y ago
    Many Jews (like me) will eat ham and happily celebrate at your Christmas party though. You’ll never please everyone.
    - pseudalopex 6y ago
      Would you celebrate any less happily if the holiday party had kosher food?
      - skinkestek 6y ago
        Not a jew but an "observant christian": I'd in fact in many cases be less happy if they took away things from my colleagues to please me. I don't eat blood or strangled meat but don't mess up other people's celebrations and blame it on me. As long as I'm not forced to be part of it just give me something else that I like and I'm happy.
        pseudalopex 6y ago
        Having kosher food doesn't mean we can't have ham. People eat other things at Christmas anyway. And calling it a holiday party doesn't take anything away from anyone.
  - renewiltord 6y ago
    Ohhh, it's the double whammy of having a Christmas party at work and having the ham. I get it, I get it.
zajio1am 6y ago
> You can leave politics and religion at the door, but if you serve ham sandwiches at the Christmas party don't be surprised when people complain. If you leave religion at the door, you would not have Christmas party.

cobraetor 6y ago

Coinbase already took that stance. I'm not aware of any other companies that did. * https://blog.coinbase.com/coinbase-is-a-mission-focused-company-af882df8804 https://blog.coinbase.com/coinbase-is-a-mission-focused-comp... * https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2020/10/01/coinbase-wont-allow-discussions-of-politics-and-social-causes-at-work-if-employees-dont-like-it-theyre-free-to-leave/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2020/10/01/coinbase-w...

deanCommie 6y ago

Your "politics" is someone else's "fundamental human survival rights". The exact details matter from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. There are parts of the world where you can be fired for being gay. In most of the US where you can be fired for being trans. There are parts of the US where having TAMPONS in a women's bathroom is considered "political".

pseudalopex 6y ago
Firing someone for being trans is prohibited federally now FYI. The Supreme Court said it discriminates on the basis of sex.[1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R.G._%26_G.R._Harris_Funeral_Homes_Inc._v._Equal_Employment_Opportunity_Commission https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R.G._%26_G.R._Harris_Funeral_H...