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These are great questions, and here's my attempt at answering or elaborating on them. > how do you define hate speech Ira Glasser explains it precisely: "When
by cobraetor 6y ago
These are great questions, and here's my attempt at answering or elaborating on them.
> how do you define hate speech
Ira Glasser explains it precisely: "When people say they want to ban hate speech, what they mean is they want to ban speech that they hate ... But if you allowed something called ‘hate speech’ to be banned, then the only important question would be ‘who decides? ... If the government is going to be the one to decide what hate speech to ban, it’s not going to be the same speech as the speech you hate, it’s going to be the speech they hate, ... It all ends up coming down to who decides and most often, it ain’t you' https://reclaimthenet.org/former-aclu-head-ira-glasser-explains-why-you-cant-ban-hate-speech/ https://reclaimthenet.org/former-aclu-head-ira-glasser-expla...
> and what counts as inciting violence?
This is better explained by the legal scholar Jonathan Turley,
"The reason is that while the crime is not clear, the case law is. In Brandenburg v. Ohio, the Supreme Court ruled in 1969 that even calling for violence is protected under the First Amendment unless there is a threat of “imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action.”
Trump never called for violence and instead told his followers to go to the Capitol peacefully to “cheer” on those challenging the electoral votes. Such protests at capitals are common and, while reckless, Trump’s speech could as easily be interpreted as a call for protest rather than violence."
https://jonathanturley.org/2021/02/19/want-to-prosecute-trump-it-will-require-proof-not-politics-for-a-viable-case/ https://jonathanturley.org/2021/02/19/want-to-prosecute-trum...
- strictnein 6y agoSplitting hairs a little bit. The only recourse to an election that was actually stolen is violence. By stating again and again that the election was stolen what, exactly, was Trump wanting his followers to do about it? What, exactly, did he want for the people marching on the Capitol to do to stop the election from being stolen? Stand outside? Come on...
- ceilingcorner 6y agoI had to do a double take there. Ira Glasser, not Ira Glass.
- adictator 6y ago> If the government is going to be the one to decide what hate speech to ban Yes. The government, typically democratically elected, should be the ONLY authority on making such rules. Not a commercial / tech company which, for all intents and purposes, was setup with the sole intention of making money. So in the US, even if you take the best case scenario, we have certain sections of the government shooting over the shoulders of companies like Twitter & Facebook. That way they get the results they want without the flak they would have typically received. In return, those sections of govt can confer favors, monetary or otherwise to the tech companies.