You're both missing something important. It's who decides on how to define "value" and in most cases, it's management, and it's almost invariably short-term val

You're both missing something important. It's who decides on how to define "value" and in most cases, it's management, and it's almost invariably short-term value that wins out. The reason? Most organizations believe that software engineering is easy, and therefore software engineers are as interchangable as cogs. Most corporations don't understand or value experience.