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There are still plenty of people who believe in free speech irrespective if it’s right or wrong. What’s right or wrong changes over time.
by dkdk8283 6y ago
There are still plenty of people who believe in free speech irrespective if it’s right or wrong. What’s right or wrong changes over time.
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- x86_64Ubuntu 6y agoThis has nothing to do with free speech at all. And it does appear that ramble could be seen as Parler-esque. It's got comments citing dailystormer and whitedate.net as "Free Speech" paragons. We all can be pretty sure that any left wing posts on such cites, as with Parler, would be moderated out of existence.
- fleshdaddy 6y agoMaybe off topic but I’d never heard of whitedate.net. Is that considered something bad? I mean it’s a little weird and creepy from the look of it but plenty of exclusionary dating sites exist. I can even think of a few others that exclude based on race.
- wizzwizz4 6y agoThe kinds of people you'd meet on a site called "whitedate.net" are probably not worth meeting.
- fleshdaddy 6y agoOh yeah absolutely I wouldn’t even be allowed to join. The commenter just mentioned it in the same breath as the daily stormer so I’m wondering whether they find it racist in the same way dailystormer is because it wouldn’t seem that way to me.
- wizzwizz4 6y agoThe general idea… might be okay? But this implementation is clearly by white supremacists, for white supremacists: • Among their social medias, they list Gab • "Trad life", "RedPill" and "Without White Children We Will Perish" are on their about page • > By the way, this is the list of companies supporting BLM. Just in case you were wondering whom to boycott.
- matthewmacleod 6y agoWell, it's an overtly, explicitly white-supremacist dating site. It exhorts people to "have white babies" because "only white people create white societies"; it links out to several lists of "pro-white" media including the aforementioned Daily Stormer, various "white genocide" blogs, and Stormfront; and it had forums full of posts on topics like "intentional miscegenation in advertising". It would honestly be pretty hard for me to think of a more obviously racist website. The thing is with this stuff… it kind of makes sense that you would find dating sites that revolve around a particular cultural or minority background. You'll find sites primarily for gay men, lesbians, Muslims, people with disabilities and so on. That's because the default culture of a "mainstream" dating site is going to be "generally mainstream able-bodied heterosexual white-ish", and people who have a cultural context that doesn't align with that can have a bit of a tough time with those. A site focusing on "white dating"—at least in the Anglosphere—doesn't really have the same reason for existing. I mean on the surface level, something like "white dating" is the same kind of thing "muslim dating", and I could certainly see some circumstances in which it might not be deliberately bad. But the former is immediately super suspicious, and inevitably a peek behind the curtain shows it up for what it is.
- AnthonyMouse 6y agoThe tell for this is that the term "white people" is used almost exclusively in discussions of race rather than culture, because "white people" are an internally diverse group without a unified culture. You can find the individual subcultures all over the place in Irish pubs and Polish clubs and so on, where you can go and find people immersed in that subculture and not really expect to find a lot of Actual Nazis. But if you go to a place that calls itself "white people" when that term only really gets used for race, what do you expect to find? It's kind of a stupid idea for anti-racists to even keep using the term, given that the group has no identity outside of defunct 20th century pseudoscience notions of race and preserving and promoting the idea of it as any kind of coherent group is only fortifying tribalist lines we should instead be trying to dissolve.
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- oqkf 6y agoFree speech would mean you support (private companies like) reddit's choice to ban the white supremacy subreddits. What does it have to do with that website being full of bigots? Their speech is not limited by the government.
- stjohnswarts 6y agoExactly, Free Speech includes the right to do what you want on your platform. Otherwise you have to meet on neutral ground. Reddit has zero obligation to give a megaphone to anyone that they choose not to. Redditors can pursue other avenues if they're not happy with the policy. Those people can move to Gag and Parler
- barbacoa 6y agoFree speech is a principle and a constitutional right.
- oqkf 6y agoI agree, reddit should ban the white supremacy subreddits on principle alone; but they are also within their constitutional rights to do so.