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Reality is no one cares about privacy, there isn’t a dollar amount attached to it like with security. So yes people will be outraged when they are told data is

Reality is no one cares about privacy, there isn’t a dollar amount attached to it like with security. So yes people will be outraged when they are told data is collected about them but then they will see the service offered and accept the collection. The only thing this achieved is made a lot of people realize and vocalize to themselves that they don’t care about privacy. I could t even convince my own family to ditch WhatsApp. We are in the very early phase of the fight for privacy like we were in the ssl 1.0 days with security. It will happen but there is a lot of struggle left

CubsFan1060 6y ago
People care, but they are also unwilling to make any sacrifice. They would like more privacy, but would also like to continue using the services that steal their privacy. And they would also like to continue to use the for free. When faced with "continue using the thing I like and lose privacy" vs "Pay for a similar solution", they almost always choose the first.
- MaxBarraclough 6y ago
  That isn't a problem here. Signal is free, and already well funded.
- themacguffinman 6y ago
  > People care, but they are also unwilling to make any sacrifice. This is also known as "not caring". "Oh yeah I really care about you babe, I just can't help you or hang out with you in any way that even slightly inconveniences me."
MaxBarraclough 6y ago
> Reality is no one cares about privacy Not so. I know several non-technical people who heard about the changes and made the switch to Signal. (Or rather, primarily Signal, but WhatsApp where necessary.) It's not just us HackerNews readers. I don't expect WhatsApp to be a deserted wasteland any time soon, but it's not the case that no one cares. > there isn’t a dollar amount attached to it like with security There isn't really a bright line between the two. Privacy has significant overlap with the C of the CIA triad of cybersecurity. > I could t even convince my own family to ditch WhatsApp. That's unfortunate, but not universal.

CubsFan1060 6y ago

People care, but they are also unwilling to make any sacrifice. They would like more privacy, but would also like to continue using the services that steal their privacy. And they would also like to continue to use the for free. When faced with "continue using the thing I like and lose privacy" vs "Pay for a similar solution", they almost always choose the first.

MaxBarraclough 6y ago
That isn't a problem here. Signal is free, and already well funded.
themacguffinman 6y ago
> People care, but they are also unwilling to make any sacrifice. This is also known as "not caring". "Oh yeah I really care about you babe, I just can't help you or hang out with you in any way that even slightly inconveniences me."

MaxBarraclough 6y ago

> Reality is no one cares about privacy Not so. I know several non-technical people who heard about the changes and made the switch to Signal. (Or rather, primarily Signal, but WhatsApp where necessary.) It's not just us HackerNews readers. I don't expect WhatsApp to be a deserted wasteland any time soon, but it's not the case that no one cares. > there isn’t a dollar amount attached to it like with security There isn't really a bright line between the two. Privacy has significant overlap with the C of the CIA triad of cybersecurity. > I could t even convince my own family to ditch WhatsApp. That's unfortunate, but not universal.