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Your example is not as logically meaningful however. An example of something not being done (i.e., negotiation) can serve as a proof it is not necessary, assumi

Your example is not as logically meaningful however. An example of something not being done (i.e., negotiation) can serve as a proof it is not necessary, assuming it was legal. The converse doesn't work. Maybe your experience is with companies who like to do legally-unnecessary things. Large companies obviously don't negotiate as much as small companies. In the US, contracting for engineering has been outlawed to a large degree, so large companies avoid doing it because the penalties are retroactive taxes and fines. And perhaps class action suits from former contractors as well. So it's mainly small companies without "by the book" behavior doing it in software. In other fields, it is completely common however.

Nursie 6y ago
I'm not sure why it's not logically meaningful... the parent said that their experience as a contractor was similar to that of an Uber driver, I'm giving a counter-example in myself. > The converse doesn't work. Maybe your experience is with companies who like to do legally-unnecessary things. It's not legally necessary to negotiate a pay rate, but it is something that often happens, usually informally. The point is not that it is necessary but that it is possible - an uber driver cannot negotiate. I can and do. > In the US, contracting for engineering has been outlawed to a large degree Thankfully that's not the case here!