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Come over to Sweden, things are quite dandy here. Never thought I'd say that in a positive manner though. Wish you the better and best.

by ersii 6y ago

jjgreen 6y ago
A lot of us wish we could; but in the UK it is illegal to leave the house for anything but food-shopping, a medical appointment or (limited) exercise. I don't think "escaping a police state" falls under any of those.
- leesalminen 6y ago
  Wait are you seriously saying that you can’t leave the country?!?
  - jjgreen 6y ago
    Yes, there are exceptions (vaguely stated, a funeral or what the police would regard as essential), but a holiday would be illegal. https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice
    - leesalminen 6y ago
      Wow, I’m sorry to hear that. Sounds tyrannical to me.
      - tomcooks 6y ago
        Afaik most European countries have a travel ban unless it's for work. Minimizing contact and travel, together with masks and sanitation，is proven to work and currently the only solution- unless hey you have a non tyrannical alternative then please let me know
        Mediterraneo10 6y ago
        Few European countries prevent people from leaving the country for leisure or family visits. I myself have managed to travel a bit this winter. In some places, ruling parties have complained that they simply couldn’t prevent people from leaving even if they wanted to, because freely leaving and re-entering is enshrined in the country’s constitution. The UK, Australian, and New Zealand prevention on even leaving the country is much harsher than in most other developed countries. "Minimizing contact and travel" is not the only solution, just perhaps the only solution you personally find palatable. Keeping borders open and simply accepting deaths works for me. Deaths are bad, but a new wave of nationalism and wall-building is worse.
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eybbus 6y ago
isn't Sweden proposing to shut down businesses, limiting time spent at some places and adding new rules regarding gatherings and public event? Thats at least I gather from a Norwegian news site, but my Norwegian is not up to snuff.

Come over to Sweden, things are quite dandy here. Never thought I'd say that in a positive manner though. Wish you the better and best.

by ersii 6y ago

Come over to Sweden, things are quite dandy here. Never thought I'd say that in a positive manner though. Wish you the better and best.

jjgreen 6y ago

A lot of us wish we could; but in the UK it is illegal to leave the house for anything but food-shopping, a medical appointment or (limited) exercise. I don't think "escaping a police state" falls under any of those.

leesalminen 6y ago
Wait are you seriously saying that you can’t leave the country?!?
- jjgreen 6y ago
  Yes, there are exceptions (vaguely stated, a funeral or what the police would regard as essential), but a holiday would be illegal. https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice
  - leesalminen 6y ago
    Wow, I’m sorry to hear that. Sounds tyrannical to me.
    - tomcooks 6y ago
      Afaik most European countries have a travel ban unless it's for work. Minimizing contact and travel, together with masks and sanitation，is proven to work and currently the only solution- unless hey you have a non tyrannical alternative then please let me know
      - Mediterraneo10 6y ago
        Few European countries prevent people from leaving the country for leisure or family visits. I myself have managed to travel a bit this winter. In some places, ruling parties have complained that they simply couldn’t prevent people from leaving even if they wanted to, because freely leaving and re-entering is enshrined in the country’s constitution. The UK, Australian, and New Zealand prevention on even leaving the country is much harsher than in most other developed countries. "Minimizing contact and travel" is not the only solution, just perhaps the only solution you personally find palatable. Keeping borders open and simply accepting deaths works for me. Deaths are bad, but a new wave of nationalism and wall-building is worse.
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eybbus 6y ago

isn't Sweden proposing to shut down businesses, limiting time spent at some places and adding new rules regarding gatherings and public event? Thats at least I gather from a Norwegian news site, but my Norwegian is not up to snuff.