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> Maybe it's the rural setup where I'm from Nah, it’s almost certainly (at least in this context) your privilege. I should hope that you’d never have your inco

> Maybe it's the rural setup where I'm from Nah, it’s almost certainly (at least in this context) your privilege. I should hope that you’d never have your income, overnight, ganked out from under you. Not to mention the dozens of other hard working, honest humans on your payroll. I also hope nobody has the completely disconnected uppity spirit to post paragraphs of text telling you why you’re worthless, as you’re inhaling water and drowning. Because that would be shitty.

globular-toast 6y ago
Eh? Are you suggesting this site is for bar owners. You parent and probably everyone else is assuming the perspective of a bar patron.
- corobo 6y ago
  You guys know people lost their jobs during the pandemic right?
  - leesalminen 6y ago
    No, they don’t know anyone outside of their tech bubble, so of course they don’t. As long as it doesn’t affect them, they don’t care.
  - globular-toast 6y ago
    Of course I do, but what does that have to do with this? Are you suggesting bar owners or workers will be on here seeking some kind of comfort? This is clearly for people that go to hang out in bars as customers.
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    - jaywalk 6y ago
      So because those people probably aren't here, it's fine to demean them and act like all of the horrible things that have happened to them and their employees are actually GOOD THINGS because some people "got to" spend more time by lakes and forests? My tech job is very safe. My financial situation has not changed. But many of my friends own and work in bars and restaurants, and I have seen firsthand how their lives have been so negatively impacted by all of this. In all sincerity: go fuck yourself.
tomcooks 6y ago
Do you have any solution other than assuming things about others, their supposed privileges? Do you think the state should give you money or leave you to your enterprise? Do you think that taking things from businesses was some sort of conspiracy plan against business owners or the result of something terrible plus bad management plus decades of no preparation even when the scientific community was proactively warning everyone of this problem? I made myself resistant to THIS specific problem by decades of choices, losses and failures. My time to drown will come again as it did in the apat and hopefully won't blame others for that.
- leehuffman 6y ago
  lol ok bruh... I'll break this down... > Do you think the state should give you money or leave you to your enterprise? I haven't taken a dime from any government entity, including the unemployment pool that I 100% qualify for and have spent the last 15 years paying into. I also have ~4 other streams of income, so yeah, leave me to my 'enterprise, I'm good. > Do you think that taking things from businesses was some sort of conspiracy plan against business owners No... > or the result of something terrible Correct. > plus bad management Nah we run an extremely dialed joint that pays all state & federal taxes with all cash components (door cover, tips, etc) on the books. My round of ownership (I'm 1 of 3) dug the place out of ~$100k in debt from prior ownership (primarily to other local vendors, and the IRS) and hard course corrected the place inside 24 months time. I'd argue we're a great example of fantastic management – in this business and plenty of others. > plus decades of no preparation I've been in this business for ~5 years, so I can't speak to decades. > even when the scientific community was proactively warning everyone of this problem? This is so wildy out of pocket, I can't even respond with anything reasonable. Are you suggesting that restaurant/bar/venue owners should fall to zero and grind it out on the streets because they weren't accounting for scientific research that presented the possibility of a pandemic that'd stop all economic activity across the globe for 6+ months, and their businesses for 2+ years? Are you high? > I made myself resistant to THIS specific problem by decades of choices, losses and failures. Like I said, I'm good. But I also have a responsibility to a payroll of 18+ humans, and I'm not a large enough piece of shit to tell them that I win, they planned poorly, I am superior, and to hit the line at the fuckin' food bank. > and hopefully won't blame others for that. Nope but you'll blame the ones drowning as you stomp on their heads and flex on them with your wild time traveling foresight that makes you better than all of them and worthy of watching their lungs take on water with an 'I told you so' attitude. Hope that works out for you, boss.

globular-toast 6y ago

Eh? Are you suggesting this site is for bar owners. You parent and probably everyone else is assuming the perspective of a bar patron.

corobo 6y ago
You guys know people lost their jobs during the pandemic right?
- leesalminen 6y ago
  No, they don’t know anyone outside of their tech bubble, so of course they don’t. As long as it doesn’t affect them, they don’t care.
- globular-toast 6y ago
  Of course I do, but what does that have to do with this? Are you suggesting bar owners or workers will be on here seeking some kind of comfort? This is clearly for people that go to hang out in bars as customers.
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  - jaywalk 6y ago
    So because those people probably aren't here, it's fine to demean them and act like all of the horrible things that have happened to them and their employees are actually GOOD THINGS because some people "got to" spend more time by lakes and forests? My tech job is very safe. My financial situation has not changed. But many of my friends own and work in bars and restaurants, and I have seen firsthand how their lives have been so negatively impacted by all of this. In all sincerity: go fuck yourself.

tomcooks 6y ago

Do you have any solution other than assuming things about others, their supposed privileges? Do you think the state should give you money or leave you to your enterprise? Do you think that taking things from businesses was some sort of conspiracy plan against business owners or the result of something terrible plus bad management plus decades of no preparation even when the scientific community was proactively warning everyone of this problem? I made myself resistant to THIS specific problem by decades of choices, losses and failures. My time to drown will come again as it did in the apat and hopefully won't blame others for that.

leehuffman 6y ago
lol ok bruh... I'll break this down... > Do you think the state should give you money or leave you to your enterprise? I haven't taken a dime from any government entity, including the unemployment pool that I 100% qualify for and have spent the last 15 years paying into. I also have ~4 other streams of income, so yeah, leave me to my 'enterprise, I'm good. > Do you think that taking things from businesses was some sort of conspiracy plan against business owners No... > or the result of something terrible Correct. > plus bad management Nah we run an extremely dialed joint that pays all state & federal taxes with all cash components (door cover, tips, etc) on the books. My round of ownership (I'm 1 of 3) dug the place out of ~$100k in debt from prior ownership (primarily to other local vendors, and the IRS) and hard course corrected the place inside 24 months time. I'd argue we're a great example of fantastic management – in this business and plenty of others. > plus decades of no preparation I've been in this business for ~5 years, so I can't speak to decades. > even when the scientific community was proactively warning everyone of this problem? This is so wildy out of pocket, I can't even respond with anything reasonable. Are you suggesting that restaurant/bar/venue owners should fall to zero and grind it out on the streets because they weren't accounting for scientific research that presented the possibility of a pandemic that'd stop all economic activity across the globe for 6+ months, and their businesses for 2+ years? Are you high? > I made myself resistant to THIS specific problem by decades of choices, losses and failures. Like I said, I'm good. But I also have a responsibility to a payroll of 18+ humans, and I'm not a large enough piece of shit to tell them that I win, they planned poorly, I am superior, and to hit the line at the fuckin' food bank. > and hopefully won't blame others for that. Nope but you'll blame the ones drowning as you stomp on their heads and flex on them with your wild time traveling foresight that makes you better than all of them and worthy of watching their lungs take on water with an 'I told you so' attitude. Hope that works out for you, boss.