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This is illegal in my country.

by _uwiz 6y ago

forgotmypw17 6y ago
My condolences on your loss of freedom. May you find a way to move about freely in the near future.
tomcooks 6y ago
Which country more or less is it? When the hot season will arrive will you be able to go out and make an impromptu bar with friends somewhere free (public squares, forests, beaches, etc.)
- oarsinsync 6y ago
  Predicting the future is difficult. After the overall incompetence of leadership that 2020 brought in many western countries, making any rational predictions about 2021 is irrational in itself. Based on their website, GP is likely in the UK. There’s vague hope based on vaccination rates, but given the number of self-inflicted own-goals by this government, anything more than vague hope now feels like setting oneself up for disappointment.
  - _uwiz 6y ago
    Vaccination has literally fuck all to do with this. Our restrictions are randomly generated. It's illegal for me to have a friend over because they made it illegal. We have adverts trying to scare people into working from home, as if that's a choice. The government is literally trolling us, just showing us that we'll do whatever as long as there's propaganda backing it. Fuck this reality.
    - Sorrop 6y ago
      I live in Greece and what you describe is very much applicable here too. Especially the part about government trolling us. Fuck this reality.
    - tinus_hn 6y ago
      Same in the Netherlands and any restriction introduced for whatever reason is forever. For instance, when bars had to close at 22:00, people would flood the supermarkets to get booze for drinking at home. So they made a rule that supermarkets can’t sell alcohol after 20:00. Now the bars have been closed for 3 months. Think anyone would remove that now useless limitation on selling alcohol after 20:00? Think again!
      - _uwiz 6y ago
        UK Government 2020: It seems that most people are catching coronavirus in private homes. makes pubs shit to be in with distancing rules and masks etc people start to socialise at home more It seems that most people are catching coronavirus in private homes. closes pubs earlier people start to socialise at home more It seems that most people are catching coronavirus in private homes. close everything else, make meeting up outside illegal people start to socialise at home more It seems that most people are catching coronavirus in private homes. I literally cannot come up with an explanation for this that isn't conspiratorial. For all of Boris' fluff, I don't believe that our Government is this incompetent or stupid - there has to be an ulterior motive here.
        tinus_hn 6y ago
        Yeah it’s like ‘30% of infections are happening in bars’ so let’s close the bars. Well now ’30% of infections are happening in gyms’ so let’s close these. Wow now that everything is closed, 60% of infections are happening at home! Let’s restrict that! Its just dumb.
        dTal 6y ago
        Are you implying that the total number of infections is held constant somehow, and restrictions merely move them around? Because that's false. Restrictions work.
        tinus_hn 6y ago
        Statistics show a different reality but even then, if everything outside the house is closed it stands to reason that the percentage of infections inside the house would grow by a lot. Simply because there are no others. And it turns out to be pretty tempting, once infections start rising again (despite the restrictions) to use these percentages to impose even more draconian restrictions.
    - ersii 6y ago
      Come over to Sweden, things are quite dandy here. Never thought I'd say that in a positive manner though. Wish you the better and best.
      - jjgreen 6y ago
        A lot of us wish we could; but in the UK it is illegal to leave the house for anything but food-shopping, a medical appointment or (limited) exercise. I don't think "escaping a police state" falls under any of those.
        leesalminen 6y ago
        Wait are you seriously saying that you can’t leave the country?!?
        jjgreen 6y ago
        Yes, there are exceptions (vaguely stated, a funeral or what the police would regard as essential), but a holiday would be illegal. https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice
        leesalminen 6y ago
        Wow, I’m sorry to hear that. Sounds tyrannical to me.
        tomcooks 6y ago
        Afaik most European countries have a travel ban unless it's for work. Minimizing contact and travel, together with masks and sanitation，is proven to work and currently the only solution- unless hey you have a non tyrannical alternative then please let me know
        Mediterraneo10 6y ago
- _uwiz 6y ago
  UK. I don't know, indefinite lockdown. It's currently illegal to sit on a park bench. I'll do it anyway, of course, but it might not be legal. [redacted] 97 days since it was last legal for me to have a friend over for a cup of tea. You know in the movies where at some point the psychotic main character thinks "I'm not the crazy one, it must be them"? I flip flop on this every other hour.
  - dTal 6y ago
    I think we should be clear. The lockdown, in more or less its current state, is necessary. Without it we will see a spiralling death toll, the collapse of health services, and many people saddled with chronic conditions for life, yes even the "young". I personally know some. Their lifestyles will never be the same. However, it didn't have to be this way. The UK practically beat the pandemic over summer, and then snatched defeat from the jaws of victory by persistently ignoring reality. Reopening schools, Eat Out To Help Out, failing to stop international travel - these are the things that led to the current situation. Get mad, by all means. But place the blame where it belongs. We are doing the right thing now, in order to deal with the idiocy of before.
    - _uwiz 6y ago
      Unfortunately, 300 days in, I am neither mentally capable of adhering to restrictions, nor do I have the trust any more to follow through if I did. For me, it's the risk of death and/or a chronic condition, or the certainty of psychosis. Hourly reminder that it's been almost 100 days since it was last legal for me to have a friend over for a cup of tea. Best of luck, glad you're holding up well; sorry that I've failed you.
  - tomcooks 6y ago
    That sucks, had no idea you couldn't spend time outside over there. I can understand the ban on having friends over, but not allowing people to spend time outside is a recipe for disaster. UK having what seems to be the most potent variant of the virus doesn't help, and the island factor either. Try to be strong, and don't let cabin fever tell you otherwise.

This is illegal in my country.

by _uwiz 6y ago

This is illegal in my country.

forgotmypw17 6y ago

My condolences on your loss of freedom. May you find a way to move about freely in the near future.

tomcooks 6y ago

Which country more or less is it? When the hot season will arrive will you be able to go out and make an impromptu bar with friends somewhere free (public squares, forests, beaches, etc.)

oarsinsync 6y ago
Predicting the future is difficult. After the overall incompetence of leadership that 2020 brought in many western countries, making any rational predictions about 2021 is irrational in itself. Based on their website, GP is likely in the UK. There’s vague hope based on vaccination rates, but given the number of self-inflicted own-goals by this government, anything more than vague hope now feels like setting oneself up for disappointment.
- _uwiz 6y ago
  Vaccination has literally fuck all to do with this. Our restrictions are randomly generated. It's illegal for me to have a friend over because they made it illegal. We have adverts trying to scare people into working from home, as if that's a choice. The government is literally trolling us, just showing us that we'll do whatever as long as there's propaganda backing it. Fuck this reality.
  - Sorrop 6y ago
    I live in Greece and what you describe is very much applicable here too. Especially the part about government trolling us. Fuck this reality.
  - tinus_hn 6y ago
    Same in the Netherlands and any restriction introduced for whatever reason is forever. For instance, when bars had to close at 22:00, people would flood the supermarkets to get booze for drinking at home. So they made a rule that supermarkets can’t sell alcohol after 20:00. Now the bars have been closed for 3 months. Think anyone would remove that now useless limitation on selling alcohol after 20:00? Think again!
    - _uwiz 6y ago
      UK Government 2020: It seems that most people are catching coronavirus in private homes. makes pubs shit to be in with distancing rules and masks etc people start to socialise at home more It seems that most people are catching coronavirus in private homes. closes pubs earlier people start to socialise at home more It seems that most people are catching coronavirus in private homes. close everything else, make meeting up outside illegal people start to socialise at home more It seems that most people are catching coronavirus in private homes. I literally cannot come up with an explanation for this that isn't conspiratorial. For all of Boris' fluff, I don't believe that our Government is this incompetent or stupid - there has to be an ulterior motive here.
      - tinus_hn 6y ago
        Yeah it’s like ‘30% of infections are happening in bars’ so let’s close the bars. Well now ’30% of infections are happening in gyms’ so let’s close these. Wow now that everything is closed, 60% of infections are happening at home! Let’s restrict that! Its just dumb.
        dTal 6y ago
        Are you implying that the total number of infections is held constant somehow, and restrictions merely move them around? Because that's false. Restrictions work.
        tinus_hn 6y ago
        Statistics show a different reality but even then, if everything outside the house is closed it stands to reason that the percentage of infections inside the house would grow by a lot. Simply because there are no others. And it turns out to be pretty tempting, once infections start rising again (despite the restrictions) to use these percentages to impose even more draconian restrictions.
  - ersii 6y ago
    Come over to Sweden, things are quite dandy here. Never thought I'd say that in a positive manner though. Wish you the better and best.
    - jjgreen 6y ago
      A lot of us wish we could; but in the UK it is illegal to leave the house for anything but food-shopping, a medical appointment or (limited) exercise. I don't think "escaping a police state" falls under any of those.
      - leesalminen 6y ago
        Wait are you seriously saying that you can’t leave the country?!?
        jjgreen 6y ago
        Yes, there are exceptions (vaguely stated, a funeral or what the police would regard as essential), but a holiday would be illegal. https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice
        leesalminen 6y ago
        Wow, I’m sorry to hear that. Sounds tyrannical to me.
        tomcooks 6y ago
        Afaik most European countries have a travel ban unless it's for work. Minimizing contact and travel, together with masks and sanitation，is proven to work and currently the only solution- unless hey you have a non tyrannical alternative then please let me know
        Mediterraneo10 6y ago
_uwiz 6y ago
UK. I don't know, indefinite lockdown. It's currently illegal to sit on a park bench. I'll do it anyway, of course, but it might not be legal. [redacted] 97 days since it was last legal for me to have a friend over for a cup of tea. You know in the movies where at some point the psychotic main character thinks "I'm not the crazy one, it must be them"? I flip flop on this every other hour.
- dTal 6y ago
  I think we should be clear. The lockdown, in more or less its current state, is necessary. Without it we will see a spiralling death toll, the collapse of health services, and many people saddled with chronic conditions for life, yes even the "young". I personally know some. Their lifestyles will never be the same. However, it didn't have to be this way. The UK practically beat the pandemic over summer, and then snatched defeat from the jaws of victory by persistently ignoring reality. Reopening schools, Eat Out To Help Out, failing to stop international travel - these are the things that led to the current situation. Get mad, by all means. But place the blame where it belongs. We are doing the right thing now, in order to deal with the idiocy of before.
  - _uwiz 6y ago
    Unfortunately, 300 days in, I am neither mentally capable of adhering to restrictions, nor do I have the trust any more to follow through if I did. For me, it's the risk of death and/or a chronic condition, or the certainty of psychosis. Hourly reminder that it's been almost 100 days since it was last legal for me to have a friend over for a cup of tea. Best of luck, glad you're holding up well; sorry that I've failed you.
- tomcooks 6y ago
  That sucks, had no idea you couldn't spend time outside over there. I can understand the ban on having friends over, but not allowing people to spend time outside is a recipe for disaster. UK having what seems to be the most potent variant of the virus doesn't help, and the island factor either. Try to be strong, and don't let cabin fever tell you otherwise.