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Would it finally be the case where a GPL violator is taken to court?

chongli 6y ago
Hopefully. I also hope this gets spread throughout the online chess community so that ChessBase gets their name dragged through the mud, as they rightfully should, for this blatant plagiarism. Taking the work of others, erasing their name and inserting your own, is the kind of crap we expect from lousy cheaters in high school, not businesses who want to establish themselves in a market based on a centuries-old global institution.
- dimitrios1 6y ago
  > Taking the work of others, erasing their name and inserting your own, is the kind of crap we expect from lousy cheaters in high school, Or Amazon Web Services
- Bakary 6y ago
  The market and the history of the game is precisely the reason they became like this. It's hard to build a profitable server platform that can compete with what's already there. Engines are already very advanced, especially on the open-source front. Free resources are plentiful. Bookshelves are already crowded and chess-related articles probably don't make that much money. To make a successful app, you'd need some name recognition like Magnus. Coaching services are probably a no-go as well, since a professional player interested in that can always get a lucrative deal with chess.com or chess24 if they are high-profile or simply quickly get clients on their own and not have to pay a percentage. All that is really left is targeting people who can't or won't perform even the most cursory research relating to their purchases.
  - zucker42 6y ago
    Chessbase still has the most popular database software, which is used by many (most?) good players. That's not really an expanding market though.
    - yesenadam 6y ago
      I get the impression every good player uses it. And I've never heard anyone talk about using anything else in its place. People use it with the Mega Database, which ChessBase also sells, 8+ million games, including 85+ thousand annotated games. Just updating the Megabase looks like it costs 70 euros a year. https://en.chessbase.com/post/new-mega-database-2021 https://en.chessbase.com/post/new-mega-database-2021
zests 6y ago
It's happened before. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BusyBox#GPL_lawsuits https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BusyBox#GPL_lawsuits
nickhalfasleep 6y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobsen_v._Katzer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobsen_v._Katzer involved GPL code.

Hopefully. I also hope this gets spread throughout the online chess community so that ChessBase gets their name dragged through the mud, as they rightfully should, for this blatant plagiarism. Taking the work of others, erasing their name and inserting your own, is the kind of crap we expect from lousy cheaters in high school, not businesses who want to establish themselves in a market based on a centuries-old global institution.

dimitrios1 6y ago
> Taking the work of others, erasing their name and inserting your own, is the kind of crap we expect from lousy cheaters in high school, Or Amazon Web Services
Bakary 6y ago
The market and the history of the game is precisely the reason they became like this. It's hard to build a profitable server platform that can compete with what's already there. Engines are already very advanced, especially on the open-source front. Free resources are plentiful. Bookshelves are already crowded and chess-related articles probably don't make that much money. To make a successful app, you'd need some name recognition like Magnus. Coaching services are probably a no-go as well, since a professional player interested in that can always get a lucrative deal with chess.com or chess24 if they are high-profile or simply quickly get clients on their own and not have to pay a percentage. All that is really left is targeting people who can't or won't perform even the most cursory research relating to their purchases.
- zucker42 6y ago
  Chessbase still has the most popular database software, which is used by many (most?) good players. That's not really an expanding market though.
  - yesenadam 6y ago
    I get the impression every good player uses it. And I've never heard anyone talk about using anything else in its place. People use it with the Mega Database, which ChessBase also sells, 8+ million games, including 85+ thousand annotated games. Just updating the Megabase looks like it costs 70 euros a year. https://en.chessbase.com/post/new-mega-database-2021 https://en.chessbase.com/post/new-mega-database-2021

zests 6y ago

It's happened before. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BusyBox#GPL_lawsuits https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BusyBox#GPL_lawsuits

nickhalfasleep 6y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobsen_v._Katzer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobsen_v._Katzer involved GPL code.