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> EXACTLY what was predicted 15-20 years ago a nitpick, but an important point: this is 100% not what was being said 20 years ago - thats why its called globa

> EXACTLY what was predicted 15-20 years ago a nitpick, but an important point: this is 100% not what was being said 20 years ago - thats why its called global warming and not the destruction of global weather patterns. thats also why all the sources you linked are less than two years old. the initial alarmism really shot itself in the foot by making specific predictions (ice caps melting, sea levels rising). we still arent even remotely close to being able to model the global weather system today. it really delegitimized the movement and slowed humanities reaction. they had to do this awful, awful position change and say "well, we were 100% wrong about all the predicitons we made but we're still right!" it helps explain how we ended up the way we are.

smileysteve 6y ago
> the initial alarmism really shot itself in the foot by making specific predictions (ice caps melting, sea levels rising) Checks notes, checks on venice and miami watches day after tomorrow, looks at Texas from hurricanes to ice Which of the predictions are looking like they're not progressing?
- xyzzyz 6y ago
  For example, while we get tons of “extreme weather events” nobody was talking about 20-30 years ago, sea level rise that was announced very loudly and widely, is actually going to be relatively minor: in IPCC report, even in their most catastrophic RCP8.5 scenario, they scientific consensus is that the sea level are highly unlikely to rise by more than a meter by 2100; that’s less than a difference between low and high tide.
  - walrus01 6y ago
    You say that as if a meter will not have catastrophic impact on the world. Pacific island nation states, and sea level rise of a meter + a major cyclone hitting Bangladesh could set an all time casualty record for a single weather disaster. Even if it's half a meter average rise and not a full meter.
    - xyzzyz 6y ago
      It could, if people just sit on their thumbs and do nothing about the issue. However, this is relatively easy problem to solve from engineering perspective: the Dutch have successfully implemented solutions hundreds of years ago already, before most of modern technology had been invented. Really, out of all ways the climate change will negatively impact the world, sea level rise in the amount we are actually going to observe it is really rather minor problem.
      - wiredfool 6y ago
        The Dutch wouldn't still be there if they were in a Karst region.

smileysteve 6y ago

> the initial alarmism really shot itself in the foot by making specific predictions (ice caps melting, sea levels rising) Checks notes, checks on venice and miami watches day after tomorrow, looks at Texas from hurricanes to ice Which of the predictions are looking like they're not progressing?

xyzzyz 6y ago
For example, while we get tons of “extreme weather events” nobody was talking about 20-30 years ago, sea level rise that was announced very loudly and widely, is actually going to be relatively minor: in IPCC report, even in their most catastrophic RCP8.5 scenario, they scientific consensus is that the sea level are highly unlikely to rise by more than a meter by 2100; that’s less than a difference between low and high tide.
- walrus01 6y ago
  You say that as if a meter will not have catastrophic impact on the world. Pacific island nation states, and sea level rise of a meter + a major cyclone hitting Bangladesh could set an all time casualty record for a single weather disaster. Even if it's half a meter average rise and not a full meter.
  - xyzzyz 6y ago
    It could, if people just sit on their thumbs and do nothing about the issue. However, this is relatively easy problem to solve from engineering perspective: the Dutch have successfully implemented solutions hundreds of years ago already, before most of modern technology had been invented. Really, out of all ways the climate change will negatively impact the world, sea level rise in the amount we are actually going to observe it is really rather minor problem.
    - wiredfool 6y ago
      The Dutch wouldn't still be there if they were in a Karst region.