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> This will only penalise average users. How? Currently, average users can't get their hands on any of these cards because they're being bought in bulk by cry

> This will only penalise average users. How? Currently, average users can't get their hands on any of these cards because they're being bought in bulk by crypto miners. As soon as mining becomes unprofitable, the market will be flooded with cards that have been run 24/7 for months or years, which isn't a recipe for a good experience. The average user can only benefit from getting access to these cards again. nVidia knows they can't afford to burn goodwill with their customers, whom they depend on to buy card upgrades every few years. > Worse, their detection isn't going to be 100% perfect. What if After Effects does something that looks "kind of" like mining. Is it just going to be crippled? What will nvidia do then? nVidia isn't a resource-limited startup. They have a lot of smart people. They're obviously going to test the firmware against common workloads. Regardless, don't buy a card unless you know it does what you want it to do. These cards are all mining-limited from day 1, so it's not like the performance will regress suddenly.

Const-me 6y ago
> They're obviously going to test the firmware against common workloads. They can only test against pre-existing software. If they start penalizing uncommon workloads, this kills innovation in many areas, videogames included. In one of my projects I'm using GPGPUs for complicated optimizations in CAM/CAE. I don't use any libraries/frameworks. From nVidia's point of views, my compute shaders are extremely uncommon workload. Unwanted too, because I skipped CUDA and their vendor lock-in.
- rubatuga 6y ago
  Just use a floating point op and it'll probably be never picked up as hashing.
- neurostimulant 6y ago
  > If they start penalizing uncommon workloads, this kills innovation in many areas, videogames included. I'm not too worried about that. Nvidia has track record of releasing driver updates to address issues in end-user applications. If a legitimate application got accidentally flagged, people will report it and nvidia will whitelist them.
  - Const-me 6y ago
    > people will report it and nvidia will whitelist them That approach doesn’t work in general. Look at “Manage 3D settings / Program settings” in nVidia’s control panel. They only have presets for very popular software like Adobe After Effects or Premiere, benchmarks like 3D mark, or AAA videogames.
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Const-me 6y ago

> They're obviously going to test the firmware against common workloads. They can only test against pre-existing software. If they start penalizing uncommon workloads, this kills innovation in many areas, videogames included. In one of my projects I'm using GPGPUs for complicated optimizations in CAM/CAE. I don't use any libraries/frameworks. From nVidia's point of views, my compute shaders are extremely uncommon workload. Unwanted too, because I skipped CUDA and their vendor lock-in.

rubatuga 6y ago
Just use a floating point op and it'll probably be never picked up as hashing.
neurostimulant 6y ago
> If they start penalizing uncommon workloads, this kills innovation in many areas, videogames included. I'm not too worried about that. Nvidia has track record of releasing driver updates to address issues in end-user applications. If a legitimate application got accidentally flagged, people will report it and nvidia will whitelist them.
- Const-me 6y ago
  > people will report it and nvidia will whitelist them That approach doesn’t work in general. Look at “Manage 3D settings / Program settings” in nVidia’s control panel. They only have presets for very popular software like Adobe After Effects or Premiere, benchmarks like 3D mark, or AAA videogames.
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