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> But none of the other states have giant winter blackouts like Texas had this week, and most of them have worse weather. Not exactly true. SPP the grid operat
by gwoplock 6y ago
> But none of the other states have giant winter blackouts like Texas had this week, and most of them have worse weather.
Not exactly true. SPP the grid operator for OK and the area immediately east of Texas did have to go to EEA3 twice and implement rolling blackouts
https://spp.org/markets-operations/current-grid-conditions/ https://spp.org/markets-operations/current-grid-conditions/
>Feb. 15 at approximately 12:10 pm. While still under EEA Level 3 and after exhausting reserves, SPP directed member utilities to implement controlled, temporary interruptions of service.
>Feb. 16 at 6:15 a.m. SPP declared an EEA Level 3. System-wide generating capacity had dropped below current load of approximately 42 gigawatts (GW) due to extremely low temperatures, inadequate supplies of natural gas and wind generation. SPP directed member utilities to implement controlled, temporary interruptions of service.
- txlpo78 6y agoMISO, the grid that covers parts of Arkansas, Louisiana, Missouri and more also had to do this: https://www.entergynewsroom.com/news/entergy-forced-initiate-power-outages-customers-across-its-service-area/ https://www.entergynewsroom.com/news/entergy-forced-initiate...
- khuey 6y agoTexas didn't experience rolling blackouts. Texas had day plus power outages over 25% or more of the state. That's far worse than rolling blackouts.
- tptacek 6y agoI mean, like, maybe a simple threshold matter here is: did any significant area outside of Texas have to issue boil-water orders because they couldn't run water systems?
- salawat 6y agoThe issue with water systems in Texas is thar we have them terribly networked. Water for Lockhart's towers come from the next town over who shut down their pumps. Lockhart blew a main which brought pressure below what was necessary to push water to the testing site for certification of being safe to drink.. On the Electricity front, Austin Energy screwed the pooch, because they had too much of their capacity tied up in "essential" service branches. So they had to isolate the few non-essential branches with high downtime to effectively shed load. You can give Texas crap, but at least let it be accurate crap.
- tptacek 6y agoI assume the subtext is that the answer to my question is "no, other localities haven't lost water treatment in their winter outages" --- those outages apparently not being severe enough to impact water delivery.
- sbierwagen 6y agoYes, Louisiana and Tennessee: https://www.theadvocate.com/acadiana/news/article_3ed2a512-7160-11eb-afe2-9ff927942a0b.html https://www.theadvocate.com/acadiana/news/article_3ed2a512-7... https://wreg.com/news/watch-mlgw-provides-water-update/ https://wreg.com/news/watch-mlgw-provides-water-update/
- amznthrwaway 6y agoRolling blackouts are not the same as multi-day blackouts. You are a liar.
- NortySpock 6y agoDepends on the definition of "giant blackouts", SPP reported having to cut 6.5% of load off for around 3 hours and 21 min SPP press conference https://youtu.be/NUa3AKdCYvM?t=693 https://youtu.be/NUa3AKdCYvM?t=693
- ashtonkem 6y ago6.5% of the grid losing power for 3 hours isn’t great, but to claim that that’s equivalent to what’s going on in Texas is ridiculous. Millions of people have lost power in Texas for days. The city of Austin is running out of water because of this. It’s really, really bad down there.
- NortySpock 6y agoLooks like SPP is back at a "conservative status" rather than emergency status now, which is good. At a press conference, a spokesperson said they had to cut 6.5% of load for 3h21m on Tuesday. https://youtu.be/NUa3AKdCYvM?t=693 https://youtu.be/NUa3AKdCYvM?t=693 (Also under the SPP region myself, just in Kansas City)
- Throwawayaerlei 6y agoSPP went back to Energy Emergency Alert (EEA) Level 1 not long after 6 pm, just like they did 5 minutes earlier to Level 2 yesterday, Wednesday the 17th: https://spp.org/markets-operations/current-grid-conditions/ https://spp.org/markets-operations/current-grid-conditions/ I'm also in it, and have heard many reports of rolling blackouts earlier this week when it was at Level 3.
- newacct583 6y agoThere were outages elsewhere, but not as severe and not as widespread. No one is saying that the NERC-regulated areas handled a 100 year storm without flaw. Just that they did it a lot better than Texas.
- ashtonkem 6y agoOther states had rolling blackouts, but to say that that’s equivalent to what’s going on in TX is patently ridiculous.