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It's the gas turbines and power plants that failed to come online due to frozen gas pipelines...

ed25519FUUU 6y ago
That's simply an issue with winterization. It's nothing inherent to their operation during a winter snow storm. Russia runs all kinds of gas and nuclear power plants in cold parts of Siberia that regularly get this kind of weather. This is something unlike current solar and wind technologies. Which can't be "winterized" in the same way.
- ogre_codes 6y ago
  You put the answer right in your post. Russia regularly sees weather like this. This is a rare/ record breaking event in Texas.
- fredophile 6y ago
  Antarctica has wind turbines [0]. Arguments that renewable can't be winterized are wrong. [0] https://www.power-technology.com/projects/rossislandwindfarm/ https://www.power-technology.com/projects/rossislandwindfarm...
  - ed25519FUUU 6y ago
    Those turbines also stop spinning when they freeze -- same as the ones in Texas.
    - munk-a 6y ago
      Your statement wasn't false owing to being a tautology since everything keeps moving until it freezes - hence the word. However, those wind turbines continue operating in far less gentle weather then what hit Texas. There is, of course, a temperature[1] at which everything stops moving and operating, but well designed engineering can push that down pretty far. 1. If it's not higher - it'll be at 0K since that's what absolute zero means, an absolute lack of generally useful energy.
    - fredophile 6y ago
      Those turbines are on permafrost so its safe to say they can still spin at the temperatures Texas is seeing this week. Edit: It's also worth noting that the wind turbines in Texas are producing a good amount of energy despite cold conditions there.
- nwallin 6y ago
  > That's simply an issue with winterization. Wait I'm not sure I'm following the plot. This entire disaster was caused by the fact that none of the power generation in Texas is winterized. Then natural gas turbine power was suggested as an emergency fallback. Then it was brought up that natural gas had frozen in all the already existing infrastructure. You're suggesting that you simply winterize the emergency natural gas turbines? Why don't they just winterize the normal power infrastructure? > This is something unlike current solar and wind technologies. Which can't be "winterized" in the same way. Solar, sure. Put some snow on it and it doesn't work. But wind works everywhere. Cold, ice, snow, doesn't matter.
  - astrange 6y ago
    > Solar, sure. Put some snow on it and it doesn't work. I'm late reading this tab, but solar power works better in the cold and slightly better in snow once you clean the panels off - snow can be very bright, that's why you need snow goggles.

That's simply an issue with winterization. It's nothing inherent to their operation during a winter snow storm. Russia runs all kinds of gas and nuclear power plants in cold parts of Siberia that regularly get this kind of weather. This is something unlike current solar and wind technologies. Which can't be "winterized" in the same way.

ogre_codes 6y ago
You put the answer right in your post. Russia regularly sees weather like this. This is a rare/ record breaking event in Texas.
fredophile 6y ago
Antarctica has wind turbines [0]. Arguments that renewable can't be winterized are wrong. [0] https://www.power-technology.com/projects/rossislandwindfarm/ https://www.power-technology.com/projects/rossislandwindfarm...
- ed25519FUUU 6y ago
  Those turbines also stop spinning when they freeze -- same as the ones in Texas.
  - munk-a 6y ago
    Your statement wasn't false owing to being a tautology since everything keeps moving until it freezes - hence the word. However, those wind turbines continue operating in far less gentle weather then what hit Texas. There is, of course, a temperature[1] at which everything stops moving and operating, but well designed engineering can push that down pretty far. 1. If it's not higher - it'll be at 0K since that's what absolute zero means, an absolute lack of generally useful energy.
  - fredophile 6y ago
    Those turbines are on permafrost so its safe to say they can still spin at the temperatures Texas is seeing this week. Edit: It's also worth noting that the wind turbines in Texas are producing a good amount of energy despite cold conditions there.
nwallin 6y ago
> That's simply an issue with winterization. Wait I'm not sure I'm following the plot. This entire disaster was caused by the fact that none of the power generation in Texas is winterized. Then natural gas turbine power was suggested as an emergency fallback. Then it was brought up that natural gas had frozen in all the already existing infrastructure. You're suggesting that you simply winterize the emergency natural gas turbines? Why don't they just winterize the normal power infrastructure? > This is something unlike current solar and wind technologies. Which can't be "winterized" in the same way. Solar, sure. Put some snow on it and it doesn't work. But wind works everywhere. Cold, ice, snow, doesn't matter.
- astrange 6y ago
  > Solar, sure. Put some snow on it and it doesn't work. I'm late reading this tab, but solar power works better in the cold and slightly better in snow once you clean the panels off - snow can be very bright, that's why you need snow goggles.