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Real-time dialogue between experimenters and dreamers during REM sleep
- kasperni 6y agoA short documentary follow up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M06fJxiayo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M06fJxiayo
- sghiassy 6y agoNice
- arikr 6y agoIs it who we think of as the 'participant' responding, or is it just a subconscious reflex, like the way our knee responds to a reflex test? And, does that matter?
- compscistd 6y agoIt seems like the participant since they have to proactively signal they’re in a lucid dreaming state with deliberate sweeping eye movements (LRLRLR) before answering questions. It definitely matters because it implies we are consciously aware of ourselves during lucid dreaming but we’re asleep!. The memory of the dream is the only part that’s fragile. It’s another blow to the view that brain activity during REM is just randomly firing neurons rather than a creation of our consciousness.
- Someone 6y agoFTA: “Our general approach was to awaken the participant from sleep after achieving successful two-way communication, in order to obtain a dream report. […] participants typically reported that they had received experimenters’ questions in their dreams” ⇒ If it was sunconscious, it did not stay that way. Also, it would have been quite the subconscious. One of the participants decoded questions posed in Morse, and questions included simple math (“Then we presented a spoken math problem: 8 minus 6. Within 3 s, he responded with two left-right eye movements (LRLR) to signal the correct answer 2. The math problem was then repeated, and he again produced the correct answer”)
- cercatrova 6y agoLucid dreaming is awesome. I think if we can make it doable for the common population without needing to practice the various methods, it'll be just like how it's shown in the movie Inception: people spending all their time dreaming in a fantasy world. It's the ultimate VR because whatever you think, the mind will create. The level of detail is just insane. I once stopped to examine a flower and it was as detailed as real life. I ate sushi and other foods in a dream and it was literally the best tasting sushi I (n)ever ate. I could also give myself super powers like stopping time, flying, elemental manipulation, etc. It's ridiculous how much power there is still to be harnessed.
- smogcutter 6y agoThere’s an old Fred Pohl[1] novel (I forget the title) where this is a plot point. A time traveler finds himself in a post-scarcity utopia, but everyone’s wasting away spending all their time in the “dream theater”. Fun little book, but firmly a pulp: the lucid dreaming scene is really raunchy. [1] Edit: Maybe Poul Anderson. It’s been a while.
- throwaway81523 6y agoIt was also a plot arc of the underrated great movie "Until the End of the World".
- moistly 6y agoEr.. “power”? ”Harnessed”? I do not understand your use of those words. How do you “harness” a dream and use it to “power” a change? Are you thinking that lucid dreaming might alter one’s brain? Change one’s real-world behaviour? Because on the face of it, I’m not seeing any way that a dream can directly change anything in the real world. Strange use of the words, IMO.
- kamranjon 6y agoDoes playing a video game change anything in the real world? I think in terms of an entertainment paradigm it could be pretty powerful.
- legerdemain 6y agoOne step closer to Granny Cream's Hot Butter Ice Cream!
- BlackLotus89 6y agoWas done before https://xkcd.com/269/ https://xkcd.com/269/ ;)