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Here's the thing. Municipal owned fiber is great -> you permit and add it on EVERY dig. Putting a new sewer line in? Run fiber. Someone wants to replace their

Here's the thing. Municipal owned fiber is great -> you permit and add it on EVERY dig. Putting a new sewer line in? Run fiber. Someone wants to replace their sewer lateral? Run fiber. Repaving? Run fiber. Someone doing a new development. Run fiber. You can actually wholesale it out as well if you want and let folks compete on top of it with backhaul etc (at whatever level you want, from customer service / billing handoff only to some backhaul network comp). That said, fiber to the home is pretty close to a natural monopoly. Everyone should have a fiber to their house, but it makes NO sense for competing providers to string up fibers in most cases and so they do not. I'm on fiber now with a hardwired set of connections to pretty much everything. It is AMAZING! I do remote work, video conference, large files. Even my 300Mbps cable service only had 10Mbps upload (or less), so wife and kids doing whatever on things (dropbox file sync maybe for large vidoes) meant my zoom calls were dropping. Gigabit is 4-6ms (!) ping to major services. And symmetric.

adolph 6y ago
> Municipal owned fiber is great -> you permit and add it on EVERY dig. Putting a new sewer line in? Run fiber. Someone wants to replace their sewer lateral? Run fiber. Repaving? Run fiber. Someone doing a new development. Run fiber. Ok, I can see how a municipality can make everything else very expensive and slow if they become an ISP with a government attached.
gremlinsinc 6y ago
This is what Utopia did in Utah...they worked with UDOT and was a collaboration between the state and smaller telecoms to build out a network but it was in collaboration with a lot of providers. Everytime there was road construction they laid conduit, first from SLC to Provo, then to all the smaller communities off i15, then all the rurals. I live in a rural town with 45 thousand in the entire county and I have access to 1 gig fiber. In my previous rental in an even more small town (500 residents) I still had fiber. This was 45 minutes from any other town. Utah rocks for broadband and is one of the best models I've ever seen.

adolph 6y ago

> Municipal owned fiber is great -> you permit and add it on EVERY dig. Putting a new sewer line in? Run fiber. Someone wants to replace their sewer lateral? Run fiber. Repaving? Run fiber. Someone doing a new development. Run fiber. Ok, I can see how a municipality can make everything else very expensive and slow if they become an ISP with a government attached.

gremlinsinc 6y ago

This is what Utopia did in Utah...they worked with UDOT and was a collaboration between the state and smaller telecoms to build out a network but it was in collaboration with a lot of providers. Everytime there was road construction they laid conduit, first from SLC to Provo, then to all the smaller communities off i15, then all the rurals. I live in a rural town with 45 thousand in the entire county and I have access to 1 gig fiber. In my previous rental in an even more small town (500 residents) I still had fiber. This was 45 minutes from any other town. Utah rocks for broadband and is one of the best models I've ever seen.