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It implies cheating workers out of healthcare and benefits, causing them more stress, and costs and time commuting.

dantheman 6y ago
Really, you're saying there are unintended consequences to laws? Perhaps instead of trying to extract as much money out of the rest of the economy we should reduce medical costs.
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- humanrebar 6y ago
  I'm not sure it's fair to call them unintended consequences when this exact thing was predicted by skeptics when the law was passed.
  - DangitBobby 6y ago
    I mean, high-school age children were predicting this. I am skeptical that the goal was to try make things better for workers. It seems much more likely that the goal was to appear to try to make things better. At least they did something, amirite?
throwaway0a5e 6y ago
Or it implies skilled people who would have had under the table side gigs are getting gig economy jobs because it's so easy and turnkey even if the pay is lower. Yeah people working part time are getting screwed out of benefits, but it's hard to tell whether that's rising or more side work is moving above the table.
PragmaticPulp 6y ago
It's not always that nefarious. At a past company we had certain manual labor tasks that had to be done by end of day, so work schedules were flexible. We offered full time with benefits, but there was still a lot of demand for part-time work. There are a lot of people out there who simply want to use extra time in the day to take on paying work. You get college students looking for a few hours after work, or parents who have to work around their kids school schedules, or older people who simply want to have something to do but aren't up for full-time jobs. There are also plenty of jobs where companies simply can't afford to pay someone 40 hours per week plus benefits. Hiring someone for 20 hours per week with no benefits is arguably better than not having that job in the economy at all. I'd love as much as anyone for the US to separate health care from employer-provided health insurance, but it's not really fair to blame companies for the failures of our politicians.

Really, you're saying there are unintended consequences to laws? Perhaps instead of trying to extract as much money out of the rest of the economy we should reduce medical costs.

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humanrebar 6y ago
I'm not sure it's fair to call them unintended consequences when this exact thing was predicted by skeptics when the law was passed.
- DangitBobby 6y ago
  I mean, high-school age children were predicting this. I am skeptical that the goal was to try make things better for workers. It seems much more likely that the goal was to appear to try to make things better. At least they did something, amirite?

throwaway0a5e 6y ago

Or it implies skilled people who would have had under the table side gigs are getting gig economy jobs because it's so easy and turnkey even if the pay is lower. Yeah people working part time are getting screwed out of benefits, but it's hard to tell whether that's rising or more side work is moving above the table.

PragmaticPulp 6y ago

It's not always that nefarious. At a past company we had certain manual labor tasks that had to be done by end of day, so work schedules were flexible. We offered full time with benefits, but there was still a lot of demand for part-time work. There are a lot of people out there who simply want to use extra time in the day to take on paying work. You get college students looking for a few hours after work, or parents who have to work around their kids school schedules, or older people who simply want to have something to do but aren't up for full-time jobs. There are also plenty of jobs where companies simply can't afford to pay someone 40 hours per week plus benefits. Hiring someone for 20 hours per week with no benefits is arguably better than not having that job in the economy at all. I'd love as much as anyone for the US to separate health care from employer-provided health insurance, but it's not really fair to blame companies for the failures of our politicians.