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Here are the arguments for digital integration: • Digital ammo remaining in mag counter - they exist, widely regarded as useless • Barrel wear / bullet

Here are the arguments for digital integration: • Digital ammo remaining in mag counter - they exist, widely regarded as useless • Barrel wear / bullet speed sensor - useless outside of AA guns • Position / camera - usually integrated with helmet • Target position pointer to squad - feasible, but not on an AK. This works together with the laser range finder and the the position of the rifle to mark a target on the squad map for fire support and such. Again, not on an AK. In short, gimmick. Will NOT be used in Russian army, guaranteed. If used by customer states, will be used to EW detect targets for arty strikes.

dragonwriter 6y ago
> Here are the arguments for digital integration Where did you get them from? They certainly aren't Kalashnikov’s arguments for the features of this weapon. > feasible, but not on an AK. Even if the argument it is attached to was relevant to the Ultima, the MP-155 Ultima isn't an AK. > Will NOT be used in Russian army, guaranteed Well, yeah, it's an expensive tech-toy variant of a popular civilian hunting shotgun. They aren't aiming for Russian Army sales.
- throw1234651234 6y ago
  I got them from the trends that have been happening in warfare in the past 50 years. And yes, my whole point is that this is a marketing gimmick that has no application to anything combat-related.
  - dragonwriter 6y ago
    > And yes, my whole point is that this is a marketing gimmick that has no application to anything combat-related. Since this is explicitly, per Kalashnikov, a civilian sporting shotgun with videogame-inspired features not aimed at a combat market, that's officially the case (though the company would probably not use the term “gimmick”), not something that needs argument notionally drawn from trends in warfare to establish.
    - throw1234651234 6y ago
      Just because the company designates it as a gimmick doesn't mean it ceases to be any more useless. If you look at the rest of the discussion here - the merit/application of this "feature" is being discussed.

dragonwriter 6y ago

> Here are the arguments for digital integration Where did you get them from? They certainly aren't Kalashnikov’s arguments for the features of this weapon. > feasible, but not on an AK. Even if the argument it is attached to was relevant to the Ultima, the MP-155 Ultima isn't an AK. > Will NOT be used in Russian army, guaranteed Well, yeah, it's an expensive tech-toy variant of a popular civilian hunting shotgun. They aren't aiming for Russian Army sales.

throw1234651234 6y ago
I got them from the trends that have been happening in warfare in the past 50 years. And yes, my whole point is that this is a marketing gimmick that has no application to anything combat-related.
- dragonwriter 6y ago
  > And yes, my whole point is that this is a marketing gimmick that has no application to anything combat-related. Since this is explicitly, per Kalashnikov, a civilian sporting shotgun with videogame-inspired features not aimed at a combat market, that's officially the case (though the company would probably not use the term “gimmick”), not something that needs argument notionally drawn from trends in warfare to establish.
  - throw1234651234 6y ago
    Just because the company designates it as a gimmick doesn't mean it ceases to be any more useless. If you look at the rest of the discussion here - the merit/application of this "feature" is being discussed.