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> I get it. Editing and reviewing costs money for journals. Are you sure? I'm sure previous posts on here made it very clear that they're peer reviewed for fre

by wooger 6y ago

> I get it. Editing and reviewing costs money for journals. Are you sure? I'm sure previous posts on here made it very clear that they're peer reviewed for free.

TheGallopedHigh 6y ago
Peer-review is free. Editing and Lay-out etc is done with the journal (not much though as they supply latex templates for your work). So there is some cost associated with this.
- prepend 6y ago
  I actually prefer the layout on arxiv over actual journals and recently was kind of surprised how the manuscript management system changed my layout more than just my preprint pdf. I think the layout costs could be reduced to near zero (ie, enough to be paid through the charity that funds preprint) with no negative impact. Editing is useful, I think. Although I don’t anything about the current costs or necessary costs.
0xbadcafebee 6y ago
Elsevier's ScienceDirect platform publishes over 500,000 articles a year, across 4,300 journals, providing over 18 million documents and 42,000 e-books, and serving over 18 million unique monthly page views (https://www.relx.com/~/media/Files/R/RELX-Group/documents/reports/annual-reports/2020-annual-report.pdf https://www.relx.com/~/media/Files/R/RELX-Group/documents/re...). Everything published goes through a process of peer review, editing, layout, final review, etc, and then access to the publication is maintained in perpetuity for thousands of institutions around in about a hundred countries. Here are their pricing policies: https://www.elsevier.com/about/policies/pricing https://www.elsevier.com/about/policies/pricing and their other policies, which gives you an idea what else is involved with managing journals: https://www.elsevier.com/about/policies https://www.elsevier.com/about/policies So, yeah, journals do have costs. I am not defending those costs. But it is worth pointing out that there's more to publishing than a free peer review and uploading it to GitHub.
rsfern 6y ago
I haven’t heard of any reviewer that was compensated for a review, though I once won a reviewer award that had a small honorarium. Editing is generally a paid service — the journal will not correct your typos or your prose. They will find incomplete reference data and ask you to fix them, and that’s about it

by wooger 6y ago

> I get it. Editing and reviewing costs money for journals. Are you sure? I'm sure previous posts on here made it very clear that they're peer reviewed for free.

TheGallopedHigh 6y ago

Peer-review is free. Editing and Lay-out etc is done with the journal (not much though as they supply latex templates for your work). So there is some cost associated with this.

prepend 6y ago
I actually prefer the layout on arxiv over actual journals and recently was kind of surprised how the manuscript management system changed my layout more than just my preprint pdf. I think the layout costs could be reduced to near zero (ie, enough to be paid through the charity that funds preprint) with no negative impact. Editing is useful, I think. Although I don’t anything about the current costs or necessary costs.

0xbadcafebee 6y ago

Elsevier's ScienceDirect platform publishes over 500,000 articles a year, across 4,300 journals, providing over 18 million documents and 42,000 e-books, and serving over 18 million unique monthly page views (https://www.relx.com/~/media/Files/R/RELX-Group/documents/reports/annual-reports/2020-annual-report.pdf https://www.relx.com/~/media/Files/R/RELX-Group/documents/re...). Everything published goes through a process of peer review, editing, layout, final review, etc, and then access to the publication is maintained in perpetuity for thousands of institutions around in about a hundred countries. Here are their pricing policies: https://www.elsevier.com/about/policies/pricing https://www.elsevier.com/about/policies/pricing and their other policies, which gives you an idea what else is involved with managing journals: https://www.elsevier.com/about/policies https://www.elsevier.com/about/policies So, yeah, journals do have costs. I am not defending those costs. But it is worth pointing out that there's more to publishing than a free peer review and uploading it to GitHub.

rsfern 6y ago

I haven’t heard of any reviewer that was compensated for a review, though I once won a reviewer award that had a small honorarium. Editing is generally a paid service — the journal will not correct your typos or your prose. They will find incomplete reference data and ask you to fix them, and that’s about it