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But, the response here seems to be "this is too dangerous an idea to talk about, or consider" which seems really shitty. It's been 45 years since it was first

by basch 6y ago

But, the response here seems to be "this is too dangerous an idea to talk about, or consider" which seems really shitty. It's been 45 years since it was first established that heroin CAN be used safely when accompanied by a social ritual. Part of the problem IS the mindset and stigma around addiction, and that "insanely addictive drugs" have full power over people, and there is no ability to moderate their use, which is false. People are either 100% sober or a social pariah. The response in these comments mostly confirms this sort of black or white thinking. Maybe somebody should ask if its the lack of social ritual / social controls causing the problem, not the drug. Maybe society is failing otherwise responsible drug use by making all users outcasts. Or is a spectrum and complex interaction of multiple issues, and not just drugs. "This is too dangerous of a conversation to have" puts us in danger of not having productive conversations. https://web.archive.org/web/20201111183716/https://www.harvardmagazine.com/2000/03/deep-cravings.html https://web.archive.org/web/20201111183716/https://www.harva...

steve76 6y ago
Someone hooks your wife, or kid, or parents to junk and ruins their life. They're a protected class. All those police and soldiers protect them. If addicts get to do that, why can't I do the same to them? Instead of heroin, I'm going to go after a genetic cancer cure, or see what applications of Bell's Theorem I can create on human cellular mitosis and quantum biology.
robin21 6y ago
Feels like it’s too dangerous a conversation to have in the open. I think the mistake siliconvalleyites have is that they imagine everyone as intelligent and rational as they think they themselves are which leads them to encourage open discussion. But it’s clear throughout history that all people are stupid sheep on occasion and their thinking needs to be curated in a way. Therapeutic use for diagnosed conditions - interesting. Safety for recreational use - interesting. As a recreational activity - seems like we have enough fun already without adding more risk. Just my 2cents.

by basch 6y ago

steve76 6y ago

Someone hooks your wife, or kid, or parents to junk and ruins their life. They're a protected class. All those police and soldiers protect them. If addicts get to do that, why can't I do the same to them? Instead of heroin, I'm going to go after a genetic cancer cure, or see what applications of Bell's Theorem I can create on human cellular mitosis and quantum biology.

robin21 6y ago

Feels like it’s too dangerous a conversation to have in the open. I think the mistake siliconvalleyites have is that they imagine everyone as intelligent and rational as they think they themselves are which leads them to encourage open discussion. But it’s clear throughout history that all people are stupid sheep on occasion and their thinking needs to be curated in a way. Therapeutic use for diagnosed conditions - interesting. Safety for recreational use - interesting. As a recreational activity - seems like we have enough fun already without adding more risk. Just my 2cents.