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I can get thousands of valid phone numbers for temporary use in 15 minutes. I’d say they are both about equal. No one needs quadrillions of anything, thousands

I can get thousands of valid phone numbers for temporary use in 15 minutes. I’d say they are both about equal. No one needs quadrillions of anything, thousands is enough to do 99% of tasks.

zaik 6y ago
> I can get thousands of valid phone numbers How?
- jenkstom 6y ago
  Any VOIP DID provider with a provisioning API, like Twilio or Anveo.
csharptwdec19 6y ago
I'd argue the infrastructure between phone numbers and e-mails are different enough that filtering for fake phone numbers is easier. You can look up carrier data on a phone number easily enough, and if you're in the industry you have a general idea of which carriers are the ones that actually follow the rules for registering a number. You filter on the ones that don't.
heyoni 6y ago
But the point is, you wouldn’t be able to use any of them if the service wanted to block voip numbers. I went through a few providers because I wanted to see what was going on with Parler but didn’t want to share my real number. Nothing worked.
smt88 6y ago
> I can get thousands of valid phone numbers for temporary use in 15 minutes. Not cheaply. Even on cheaper VoIP services, that would cost you $1,000+/month. Not a great price point if you're trying to spam something like a social network or post fake reviews, because each of your accounts is unlikely to generate enough to pay for the number. Plus, many of the numbers will already be blacklisted because they're VoIP numbers or because they've been used for spam already. > No one needs quadrillions of anything, thousands is enough to do 99% of tasks. My point is that there are ~8 billion possible phone numbers in the US, when you account for reserved numbers. Many are already in use, many are blacklisted. Each costs $6-12/year to own through the major VoIP services. There are essentially infinite email addresses, and each costs ~$0/year. Which one do you want to use as a point of friction for signing up for your service?

I can get thousands of valid phone numbers for temporary use in 15 minutes. I’d say they are both about equal. No one needs quadrillions of anything, thousands is enough to do 99% of tasks.

zaik 6y ago

> I can get thousands of valid phone numbers How?

jenkstom 6y ago
Any VOIP DID provider with a provisioning API, like Twilio or Anveo.

csharptwdec19 6y ago

I'd argue the infrastructure between phone numbers and e-mails are different enough that filtering for fake phone numbers is easier. You can look up carrier data on a phone number easily enough, and if you're in the industry you have a general idea of which carriers are the ones that actually follow the rules for registering a number. You filter on the ones that don't.

heyoni 6y ago

But the point is, you wouldn’t be able to use any of them if the service wanted to block voip numbers. I went through a few providers because I wanted to see what was going on with Parler but didn’t want to share my real number. Nothing worked.

smt88 6y ago

> I can get thousands of valid phone numbers for temporary use in 15 minutes. Not cheaply. Even on cheaper VoIP services, that would cost you $1,000+/month. Not a great price point if you're trying to spam something like a social network or post fake reviews, because each of your accounts is unlikely to generate enough to pay for the number. Plus, many of the numbers will already be blacklisted because they're VoIP numbers or because they've been used for spam already. > No one needs quadrillions of anything, thousands is enough to do 99% of tasks. My point is that there are ~8 billion possible phone numbers in the US, when you account for reserved numbers. Many are already in use, many are blacklisted. Each costs $6-12/year to own through the major VoIP services. There are essentially infinite email addresses, and each costs ~$0/year. Which one do you want to use as a point of friction for signing up for your service?