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Yeah, this is about par for the course for Nvidia. I wish AMD had a working product to kick their teeth in...

kmeisthax 6y ago
They mostly do, the problem is that they're even more supply-constrained than Nvidia right now.
COGlory 6y ago
They do. The 5700XT is still an excellent card, the 6700 and 6700XT are coming out soon, and the 6800 and 6800XT are both absolutely killer cards as well, especially at the reference prices. Vendors and demand have effectively driven prices to an insane amount, and you just can't get them, unfortunately. Short of AMD doing something like Nvidia is doing here, I doubt we'll see them on store shelves any time soon.
- izacus 6y ago
  And the reason you can't buy them is exactly the same reason nVidia is adding limitations - to try to make the cards less appealing to scalpers so the actual customers may get some.
  - judge2020 6y ago
    I think you mean 'miners' - scalpers don't care.
- encryptluks2 6y ago
  Except you won't be able to buy any of them, even when they are released.
  - account42 6y ago
    You might not like the price, but the 6800/6900 ones tend to stay in stock these days in at least some parts of the world [0][1] [0] https://www.mindfactory.de/Hardware/Grafikkarten+(VGA)/Radeon+RX+Serie.html https://www.mindfactory.de/Hardware/Grafikkarten+(VGA)/Radeo... [1] https://www.alternate.de/Grafikkarten/Big-Navi https://www.alternate.de/Grafikkarten/Big-Navi
- slezyr 6y ago
  5700XT costs 1000$ in Ukraine. It cost 500$ when it just got released. WTF? Edit: 1100$ actually.
  - COGlory 6y ago
    I just sold a used one for $1100 that I paid $380 for on release. It's because crypto has gone up so much.
- lozaning 6y ago
  AMD already did this. The RX6K series are terrible cards for mining. The radeon 7 smokes the new cards because the new ones where designed to be as bad at mining as possible without effecting raster performance. RX 5700 will hit 55mhs and the RX6K series will do ~68mhs, but the cost of the 5700 is typically like half that of a 6800. There's a reason it's easier to find the new AMD stuff in stock than nvidia stuff, they've got a terrible mining roi.
  - RealStickman_ 6y ago
    Vega 7 is a compute beast. The RX5xxx and RX6xxx are tuned for gaming performance and sacrifice unnecessary compute performance for better power efficiency. No wonder the V7 is way better at mining.

They mostly do, the problem is that they're even more supply-constrained than Nvidia right now.

They do. The 5700XT is still an excellent card, the 6700 and 6700XT are coming out soon, and the 6800 and 6800XT are both absolutely killer cards as well, especially at the reference prices. Vendors and demand have effectively driven prices to an insane amount, and you just can't get them, unfortunately. Short of AMD doing something like Nvidia is doing here, I doubt we'll see them on store shelves any time soon.

izacus 6y ago
And the reason you can't buy them is exactly the same reason nVidia is adding limitations - to try to make the cards less appealing to scalpers so the actual customers may get some.
- judge2020 6y ago
  I think you mean 'miners' - scalpers don't care.
encryptluks2 6y ago
Except you won't be able to buy any of them, even when they are released.
- account42 6y ago
  You might not like the price, but the 6800/6900 ones tend to stay in stock these days in at least some parts of the world [0][1] [0] https://www.mindfactory.de/Hardware/Grafikkarten+(VGA)/Radeon+RX+Serie.html https://www.mindfactory.de/Hardware/Grafikkarten+(VGA)/Radeo... [1] https://www.alternate.de/Grafikkarten/Big-Navi https://www.alternate.de/Grafikkarten/Big-Navi
slezyr 6y ago
5700XT costs 1000$ in Ukraine. It cost 500$ when it just got released. WTF? Edit: 1100$ actually.
- COGlory 6y ago
  I just sold a used one for $1100 that I paid $380 for on release. It's because crypto has gone up so much.
lozaning 6y ago
AMD already did this. The RX6K series are terrible cards for mining. The radeon 7 smokes the new cards because the new ones where designed to be as bad at mining as possible without effecting raster performance. RX 5700 will hit 55mhs and the RX6K series will do ~68mhs, but the cost of the 5700 is typically like half that of a 6800. There's a reason it's easier to find the new AMD stuff in stock than nvidia stuff, they've got a terrible mining roi.
- RealStickman_ 6y ago
  Vega 7 is a compute beast. The RX5xxx and RX6xxx are tuned for gaming performance and sacrifice unnecessary compute performance for better power efficiency. No wonder the V7 is way better at mining.