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As a mediator, I never intended to cast myself as non-biased about SlimGems. I started my involvement by specifically calling SlimGems a really bad idea, and I

by sandal 15y ago

As a mediator, I never intended to cast myself as non-biased about SlimGems. I started my involvement by specifically calling SlimGems a really bad idea, and I still stand by that point. Here's my first post: http://blog.majesticseacreature.com/rubygems-nerd-rage-is-optional-and-discourage http://blog.majesticseacreature.com/rubygems-nerd-rage-is-op... What I said is that I'd collect the concerns of the Ruby community and present them to the maintainers and try to get changes made on their behalf. I've done that, and will keep doing that. As for no longer being a mediator, I also already made it clear that I can't be unbiased about this, because after investigating, I've seen enough to form some strong opinions: http://blog.majesticseacreature.com/the-rubygems-drama-continues http://blog.majesticseacreature.com/the-rubygems-drama-conti... In the end, I'm not worried about how this makes people who think a hostile fork is a good idea feel about me. I've received more thanks than criticism, but most of it was quiet and private, rather than loud and public. I believe in the work I'm doing, and will keep it up, but hopefully through more code and less talking.

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nirvdrum 15y ago
I hope you realize that by titling your first piece on the matter "RubyGems: Nerd rage is optional (and discouraged)" and then following up with "RubyGems drama" that you were never really mediating. Maybe you brought people together over Skype and got some discussions going. Maybe you were just trying to be sensational. But I immediately discounted everything said from that point forward, as did many others I know, for the simple reason that you continued with the same attitude that we were all tired of. You were perpetuating the very thing we wanted to see changed. The RubyGems matter isn't a technical one; SlimGems effectively dispelled that notion. It's a personnel matter. It's a cultural matter. The only way I'm ever going to have faith in that project again is when the guys running it value running, working software over theoretical, idealistic improvements. And I simply don't believe that will be the case until Eric & Ryan leave or are otherwise removed. The sad part is RubyGems is so critical to the ecosystem that it really started making me question the value in using or relying on Ruby at all. The egos didn't help either. I can take a certain amount of crap if the system works and I can put up with broken software from nice, responsive people. I can't deal with both failings. In that regard, SlimGems has done more to restore my confidence in the Ruby ecosystem than anything else.

by sandal 15y ago

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nirvdrum 15y ago

I hope you realize that by titling your first piece on the matter "RubyGems: Nerd rage is optional (and discouraged)" and then following up with "RubyGems drama" that you were never really mediating. Maybe you brought people together over Skype and got some discussions going. Maybe you were just trying to be sensational. But I immediately discounted everything said from that point forward, as did many others I know, for the simple reason that you continued with the same attitude that we were all tired of. You were perpetuating the very thing we wanted to see changed. The RubyGems matter isn't a technical one; SlimGems effectively dispelled that notion. It's a personnel matter. It's a cultural matter. The only way I'm ever going to have faith in that project again is when the guys running it value running, working software over theoretical, idealistic improvements. And I simply don't believe that will be the case until Eric & Ryan leave or are otherwise removed. The sad part is RubyGems is so critical to the ecosystem that it really started making me question the value in using or relying on Ruby at all. The egos didn't help either. I can take a certain amount of crap if the system works and I can put up with broken software from nice, responsive people. I can't deal with both failings. In that regard, SlimGems has done more to restore my confidence in the Ruby ecosystem than anything else.