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> I applaud the Australian government for standing up for itself They are not standing up for themselves, they are trying to control and influence the interne

> I applaud the Australian government for standing up for itself They are not standing up for themselves, they are trying to control and influence the internet with the law, its a common tactic they look for. Any media newsgroup that's not in their pocket already they fear. They have an incredible track record on this and with journalists. The current government doesn't stand up for anything except money.

mrslave 6y ago
Implying the opposition has a raft of policies that differ in any significant way and will improve things.
- bilekas 6y ago
  No no, I'm not implying that at all, I'm just sick of the impression people get that good old ozzy politicians doing the brave thing against facebook. When in reality its completely out of context. But again, Murdock's narrative.
Nursie 6y ago
> they are trying to control and influence the internet with the law Erm ... do laws not apply on the internet? That's a very sweeping criticism and not one I'm on board with. > The current government doesn't stand up for anything except money. I'll have to take your word for that. From here it looks like a positive development, or at least an interesting one, a nation state entering open conflict with a tech giant. (Not that I'm going to be able to vote for some time, but last time I lived in Aus was under the Gillard government, and I did not form favourable opinions about the liberal-national coalition. I'm not arguing with you from a position of support for them)
- hyperionplays 6y ago
  They are heavily bank rolled and supported by Murdoch controlled media, tech giants allow smaller non-Murdoch controlled media to get more reach within Australia. This legislation was pushed for, drafted by and endorsed heavily by Murdoch controlled entities. A large number of the staffers for this governments politicians are all ex-Murdoch staff. This current government has a long history of only doing things their donors ask for and not siding with the best interests of the public.
- L_226 6y ago
  Australian here. Laws absolutely apply on the internet - if you can enforce them. FB here decided that Australia __could__ enforce this law, and chose to comply with it by not hosting links that the law would require them to pay for. If the LNP was actually serious about "controlling" foreign multinationals or "protecting" local businesses, they would simply enforce the tax obligations for these companies correctly. Note that Newscorp avoids tax in Australia [0], yet somehow they are owed money by FB for the privilege of having their content distributed on FB's graph? [0] - https://www.crikey.com.au/2020/12/11/news-corp-tax-dodging/ https://www.crikey.com.au/2020/12/11/news-corp-tax-dodging/

mrslave 6y ago

Implying the opposition has a raft of policies that differ in any significant way and will improve things.

bilekas 6y ago
No no, I'm not implying that at all, I'm just sick of the impression people get that good old ozzy politicians doing the brave thing against facebook. When in reality its completely out of context. But again, Murdock's narrative.

Nursie 6y ago

> they are trying to control and influence the internet with the law Erm ... do laws not apply on the internet? That's a very sweeping criticism and not one I'm on board with. > The current government doesn't stand up for anything except money. I'll have to take your word for that. From here it looks like a positive development, or at least an interesting one, a nation state entering open conflict with a tech giant. (Not that I'm going to be able to vote for some time, but last time I lived in Aus was under the Gillard government, and I did not form favourable opinions about the liberal-national coalition. I'm not arguing with you from a position of support for them)

hyperionplays 6y ago
They are heavily bank rolled and supported by Murdoch controlled media, tech giants allow smaller non-Murdoch controlled media to get more reach within Australia. This legislation was pushed for, drafted by and endorsed heavily by Murdoch controlled entities. A large number of the staffers for this governments politicians are all ex-Murdoch staff. This current government has a long history of only doing things their donors ask for and not siding with the best interests of the public.
L_226 6y ago
Australian here. Laws absolutely apply on the internet - if you can enforce them. FB here decided that Australia __could__ enforce this law, and chose to comply with it by not hosting links that the law would require them to pay for. If the LNP was actually serious about "controlling" foreign multinationals or "protecting" local businesses, they would simply enforce the tax obligations for these companies correctly. Note that Newscorp avoids tax in Australia [0], yet somehow they are owed money by FB for the privilege of having their content distributed on FB's graph? [0] - https://www.crikey.com.au/2020/12/11/news-corp-tax-dodging/ https://www.crikey.com.au/2020/12/11/news-corp-tax-dodging/