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This is certainly the in vogue way that good management is represented, but in my experience, great things are not created this way. Great things are created w

This is certainly the in vogue way that good management is represented, but in my experience, great things are not created this way. Great things are created when an individual person can impose their strong vision for a final product on a team.

Loughla 6y ago
This is 100% the opposite of my experience. What I've noticed from effective management - the manager/leader works with the team to set a common goal at the outset. The goal needs to be as concrete as possible, and should be changed or reviewed regularly. It helps if your goals aren't necessarily sales driven, but service driven. Then the manager works with outside agencies to either provide appropriate resources, or remove obstacles while the team does the actual work toward their common goal. Often, okay things are created when an individual imposes their will on the group. Occasionally, great things are created. BUT, they are not maintained or sustained past the exit of that one person from the company. When they leave, the house of cards falls, because no one is invested in the project outside of avoiding the ire of that one strong personality. Again, in my experience, when the entire group is dedicated to a vision and a common goal, the outcome is much, much better. A side effect is that everyone is happier and more invested in their work. AND, the project lives past the exit of one, two, or even a majority of the team. Because community and culture matter, really.
- omginternets 6y ago
  You are drawing from experience in business. This is politics. The idea that the two are somehow the same is a very questionable (not to mention recent, circa 1980) idea.
  - Loughla 6y ago
    That is a fair statement. I hadn't taken this idea into just politics, just the more general 'leadership'.
    - omginternets 6y ago
      >That is a fair statement. I really appreciate the concession. I'm going to strive to be more like you and actually verbalize when I've been convinced of something.

Loughla 6y ago

This is 100% the opposite of my experience. What I've noticed from effective management - the manager/leader works with the team to set a common goal at the outset. The goal needs to be as concrete as possible, and should be changed or reviewed regularly. It helps if your goals aren't necessarily sales driven, but service driven. Then the manager works with outside agencies to either provide appropriate resources, or remove obstacles while the team does the actual work toward their common goal. Often, okay things are created when an individual imposes their will on the group. Occasionally, great things are created. BUT, they are not maintained or sustained past the exit of that one person from the company. When they leave, the house of cards falls, because no one is invested in the project outside of avoiding the ire of that one strong personality. Again, in my experience, when the entire group is dedicated to a vision and a common goal, the outcome is much, much better. A side effect is that everyone is happier and more invested in their work. AND, the project lives past the exit of one, two, or even a majority of the team. Because community and culture matter, really.

omginternets 6y ago
You are drawing from experience in business. This is politics. The idea that the two are somehow the same is a very questionable (not to mention recent, circa 1980) idea.
- Loughla 6y ago
  That is a fair statement. I hadn't taken this idea into just politics, just the more general 'leadership'.
  - omginternets 6y ago
    >That is a fair statement. I really appreciate the concession. I'm going to strive to be more like you and actually verbalize when I've been convinced of something.