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> The Governor of Texas just got on Hannity to bad mouth a New Green Deal as people died in Texas cause no one cared enough to make sure the wind turbines worke
by jussij 6y ago
> The Governor of Texas just got on Hannity to bad mouth a New Green Deal as people died in Texas cause no one cared enough to make sure the wind turbines worked in the cold.
And there in lies the problem.
From what I have read the gas turbines also failed as did the nuclear power plants, yet somehow the wind turbines are to blame.
The first step to fixing any problem is to first identify the actual cause of the problem.
The fact that all of these systems failed seems to indicate the whole system was not properly designed to work in cold weather.
So Hannity spouting his propaganda won't fix anything.
But just like Hannity, I too am just speculating.
What should happen is for the problem to be investigated by someone or some body with the qualifications to do the investigation. They produce a written report outlining the problems and outlining solutions. If someone is found to be negligent then actions need to be taken and those responsible held to account.
But good luck hoping to see that. Most governments try hard to hush up these sort of issues, rather fix them and I suspect the Texas government will be no different.
- irjustin 6y agoAll of the power sources failed because in the de-regulation of the power grid[0] allowed looser operating temperature tolerances. The point is, as you allude to, is the wind turbine is absolutely an easy narrative to "blame someone else" instead of "us" being the problem. So, the current party in power, blames wind/green energy, which then effectively shrinks wind's scope overall, leaving the old infrastructure which is still inadequate. The thing that frustrates all of us is - the general public is blind that the root problem was never solved. A cold snap like this won't happen in 10-20 years and by then all the politicians will have "blamed green, successfully squashed/fixed it all" and moved on claiming they won. There needs to be a fight, investigations are the starting point for sure. [0] https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/17/how-the-texas-power-grid-failed-and-what-could-stop-it-from-happening-again.html#:~:text=Texas%20has%20the%20only%20deregulated,trades%20on%20supply%20and%20demand https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/17/how-the-texas-power-grid-fai....
- refenestrator 6y agoIt's all culture war. Wind turbines are sissy energy, diesel is manly energy. Both failed, unpreparedness all around, but focusing attention on culture war shibboleths is perfect for deflecting attention.
- rtx 6y agoNuclear is the only superior energy
- rurban 6y agoIndeed. The Texas nuclear power stations are the only ones to solve the US problem for the next 100.000 years. The wind would blow nuclear over the whole mid east, straight to NY. Palo Verde or Diablo are not in such a superior position.
- dmingod666 6y agoOnce upon a time, black lives were important, every death of the pandemic was the personal kill count of the president.. There used to be hilarious mask debates. Then the elections got over, and nobody gives a shit.. some would think the real root cause of the pain of these issues was actually just not being in power.. Reader, don't mind the musings of this spectators outside perspective of American politics.. I can't vote in the US, so for all practical purposes not human from an Americans perspective..
- disgrunt 6y agoYour observation is bang on. Biden just had a town hall on CNN where he said minority communities are more concerned with black-on-black or hispanic-on-hispanic crime than they are police violence. Had his predecessor said such a thing? We'd never hear the end of it. But few even know this town hall even happened. [0] [0]: https://twitter.com/MarkDice/status/1361877410371657738 https://twitter.com/MarkDice/status/1361877410371657738 Edit: Case and point despite posting a video of Biden saying this, my post is being downvoted into the same memory hole as this town hall.
- scythe 6y ago>the de-regulation of the power grid[0] allowed looser operating temperature tolerances. Absolutely silly tolerances, mind you. Texas was colder in 1930. > the wind turbine is absolutely an easy narrative to "blame someone else" instead of "us" being the problem. It's not only an easy narrative. It's an easy picture. It's easy to imagine a wind turbine frozen stuck. It's harder to imagine how extreme cold affects, say, a nuclear power plant. It's fundamentally populist because nobody has to explain how it works. It's also obviously wrong: there are wind turbines in Canada. It's the kind of thing that allows people to think they understand, without any deference to an authoritative source of information. It's a low-trust theory that suggests a United States in transition to a low-trust society[1], and that's the worst part. 1: https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2019/07/22/the-state-of-personal-trust/ https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2019/07/22/the-state-of...
- pdonis 6y ago> It's harder to imagine how extreme cold affects, say, a nuclear power plant. From what I can tell, there are only two nuclear power plants in Texas, providing about 2.5 GW of power. But one of them is currently shut down because of a problem with a feedwater pump: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/energy/how-and-why-a-nuclear-reactor-shut-down-in-texas-cold-snap-when-energy-was-needed-most https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/energy/how-and-why...
- pjc50 6y ago> United States in transition to a low-trust society Trust, like rainforests, is a resource that can be exploited, sold to the highest bidder, and destroyed. Leaving those who benefited from the externlities worse off.
- CrazyPyroLinux 6y agoYou say "low-trust society" like it's a bad thing. And it probably is, at least the interpersonal trust that your reference cites. But it also makes the point that trust in government is much lower, which is much more deserved and less of a problem than interpersonal trust issues. I wonder if there's any analogy to "zero-trust" in IT security[0] that seems to be all the rage now. Put another way, is it possible that the current situations could be a crucible that re-forms trust in a better way? (Like building some sort of "trust but verify" culture, along with whatever technology and social institutions to facilitate.) Sorry if that seems overly philosophical - just musing. [0] https://www.cloudflare.com/learning/security/glossary/what-is-zero-trust/ https://www.cloudflare.com/learning/security/glossary/what-i...
- systematical 6y agoI heard that its because Texas is one of the few (perhaps only) states that can't just get power from other grids. That, and many other reasons, but if they are set up in such a way that prevents them from leveraging other grids....woof.