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When has the market been given a choice? The choice now is between Apple and Android ecosystems. The best Android phones have comparable hardware to the iPhone

When has the market been given a choice? The choice now is between Apple and Android ecosystems. The best Android phones have comparable hardware to the iPhone, so people are choosing based on software, price, and status.

komali2 6y ago
Why not force Apple to behave ethically, on top of it? Give the people even more choice! Clearly there are strong arguments for the iphone if people are willing to give up software freedom to own one. As an Android user I'd love to hop over and find out what the buzz is about. But of course, I can't justify buying a computer that I can't even install software of my choice on. This is a great place for regulatory intervention to act for the good of the people. I don't really care about the good of Apple. It is the world's most highly valued company, right? It'll be fine.
- llukas 6y ago
  Why do you want all ecosystems to conform to your beliefs and implement your vision of how choice need to be made? Librem 5 or Pinephone is a thing as well.
  - komali2 6y ago
    Because my beliefs are more ethical than Apple's current implementation.
    - komali2 6y ago
      Lol, I guess I was wrong to assume this was obvious? Like, I could be the most baseline "all I want to do is stay at home and eat ice cream and watch TV and not hurt anyone" and my ethics are already better than Apple, who contributes negatively to climate change and participates in industry practices that lead to people throwing themselves off the roof of factories in China. That's before we get to their opposition to Right to Repair or their fights against the Free Software movement. If you're gonna downvote me, I mean... I really feel like the burden is on someone to demonstrate how Apple is somehow more ethical, rather than on me to demonstrate how I'm more ethical than apple lmao
gerash 6y ago
Switching phones OS is not a smooth experience where you click a button. Your app configs, purchased media, etc. won't transfer easily if at all.
- xondono 6y ago
  It's not infinitely costly anyway. If this is keeping people from switching, then the costs are infinitessimal. Samsung has great importers for you to switch platforms.

komali2 6y ago

Why not force Apple to behave ethically, on top of it? Give the people even more choice! Clearly there are strong arguments for the iphone if people are willing to give up software freedom to own one. As an Android user I'd love to hop over and find out what the buzz is about. But of course, I can't justify buying a computer that I can't even install software of my choice on. This is a great place for regulatory intervention to act for the good of the people. I don't really care about the good of Apple. It is the world's most highly valued company, right? It'll be fine.

llukas 6y ago
Why do you want all ecosystems to conform to your beliefs and implement your vision of how choice need to be made? Librem 5 or Pinephone is a thing as well.
- komali2 6y ago
  Because my beliefs are more ethical than Apple's current implementation.
  - komali2 6y ago
    Lol, I guess I was wrong to assume this was obvious? Like, I could be the most baseline "all I want to do is stay at home and eat ice cream and watch TV and not hurt anyone" and my ethics are already better than Apple, who contributes negatively to climate change and participates in industry practices that lead to people throwing themselves off the roof of factories in China. That's before we get to their opposition to Right to Repair or their fights against the Free Software movement. If you're gonna downvote me, I mean... I really feel like the burden is on someone to demonstrate how Apple is somehow more ethical, rather than on me to demonstrate how I'm more ethical than apple lmao

gerash 6y ago

Switching phones OS is not a smooth experience where you click a button. Your app configs, purchased media, etc. won't transfer easily if at all.

xondono 6y ago
It's not infinitely costly anyway. If this is keeping people from switching, then the costs are infinitessimal. Samsung has great importers for you to switch platforms.