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"It's not like the mafia is forcing you to open a business in Chicago. you don't like it? You can move elsewhere. People move to Chicago because it's highly pro

"It's not like the mafia is forcing you to open a business in Chicago. you don't like it? You can move elsewhere. People move to Chicago because it's highly profitable." Pretending this doesn't have deep parallels to the mafia is childish. Keep pretending and we'll have Tony break your kneecaps. There are plenty of parallels between Apple and the Mafia. Just ask Epic, who's kneecaps were busted for not paying the Don his share.

leadingthenet 6y ago
Their kneecaps were busted for voluntarily entering a contract, and then breaking it as a show of force. A contract absolutely nobody obligated them to sign. A contract they didn’t even have to sign, because they had alternatives. Yes, exactly like the mafia.
- wernercd 6y ago
  So what alternatives are there to the Apple Store on Apple Devices? Can you point me to an alternative store that I can create, upload, sell and purchase games from that isn't the Apple store? I'll gladly buy some games from the alternative store... because I love competition - unlike the Mafia. If this was a Microsoft phone and Microsoft controlled the market share Apple does? people would be stampeding to force Microsoft to allow competing stores (or browsers, default email applications, etc) on them because anti-competitive behavior. Yet Apple is "magical" and gets a pass for not allowing competition on "their" devices. Even Google allows "sideloading".
  - leadingthenet 6y ago
    I hope to God there will never be an alternative App Store on iOS. You want that? Android’s your answer, and you have dozens if not hundreds of vendors to choose from. Why does everything need to be like Android, which has way higher market share anyway? How exactly will that give us more choice, if everything has to be identical? I buy Apple products precisely because Apple has complete control over its devices, not in spite of it. Get it through your thick head.
    - wernercd 6y ago
      Your "hope" is tactic admission that there is no alternative and admission that Apple is willing to limit choice on their platform. "But Android" doesn't challenge the idea... it simply proves you can't defend Apple. "I Buy apple" and others buy Apple while still wanting choice within that ecosystem of hardware. Why don't YOU get that through YOUR thick skull? You aren't the only customer and other people deserve the choice - which is why regulations exist to break up monopolies. Thanks for, basically, admitting that I'm right and that the Don is willing to break kneecaps to keep control of their fiefdom.
      - pjmlp 6y ago
        You are free to chose other brands.
        wernercd 6y ago
        and people were free to choose other operating systems when MS was found to be abusing their "monopoly". Just because there are some other options... doesn't negate the fact that Apple is using monopolistic and anti-competitive tactics to limit consumer choice and business options. There's zero reason why Epic should be force to pay Apple a 30% cut of all income when Epic has the resources and talent to do so. Zero reason... other than mafia tactics.
        pjmlp 6y ago
        Nope, PC market share, which Apple doesn't have.
      - leadingthenet 6y ago
        > Your "hope" is tactic admission that there is no alternative and admission that Apple is willing to limit choice on their platform It's not a tacit admission. I will admit it openly. Apple has a close system with full control over it, and that's just the way I like it. You think that it's a bad thing. I don't. There's nothing to hide on my part, I'm completely honest about it. > which is why regulations exist to break up monopolies Which Apple is not. God, you're dumb, and you don't even know it.

leadingthenet 6y ago

Their kneecaps were busted for voluntarily entering a contract, and then breaking it as a show of force. A contract absolutely nobody obligated them to sign. A contract they didn’t even have to sign, because they had alternatives. Yes, exactly like the mafia.

wernercd 6y ago
So what alternatives are there to the Apple Store on Apple Devices? Can you point me to an alternative store that I can create, upload, sell and purchase games from that isn't the Apple store? I'll gladly buy some games from the alternative store... because I love competition - unlike the Mafia. If this was a Microsoft phone and Microsoft controlled the market share Apple does? people would be stampeding to force Microsoft to allow competing stores (or browsers, default email applications, etc) on them because anti-competitive behavior. Yet Apple is "magical" and gets a pass for not allowing competition on "their" devices. Even Google allows "sideloading".
- leadingthenet 6y ago
  I hope to God there will never be an alternative App Store on iOS. You want that? Android’s your answer, and you have dozens if not hundreds of vendors to choose from. Why does everything need to be like Android, which has way higher market share anyway? How exactly will that give us more choice, if everything has to be identical? I buy Apple products precisely because Apple has complete control over its devices, not in spite of it. Get it through your thick head.
  - wernercd 6y ago
    Your "hope" is tactic admission that there is no alternative and admission that Apple is willing to limit choice on their platform. "But Android" doesn't challenge the idea... it simply proves you can't defend Apple. "I Buy apple" and others buy Apple while still wanting choice within that ecosystem of hardware. Why don't YOU get that through YOUR thick skull? You aren't the only customer and other people deserve the choice - which is why regulations exist to break up monopolies. Thanks for, basically, admitting that I'm right and that the Don is willing to break kneecaps to keep control of their fiefdom.
    - pjmlp 6y ago
      You are free to chose other brands.
      - wernercd 6y ago
        and people were free to choose other operating systems when MS was found to be abusing their "monopoly". Just because there are some other options... doesn't negate the fact that Apple is using monopolistic and anti-competitive tactics to limit consumer choice and business options. There's zero reason why Epic should be force to pay Apple a 30% cut of all income when Epic has the resources and talent to do so. Zero reason... other than mafia tactics.
        pjmlp 6y ago
        Nope, PC market share, which Apple doesn't have.
    - leadingthenet 6y ago
      > Your "hope" is tactic admission that there is no alternative and admission that Apple is willing to limit choice on their platform It's not a tacit admission. I will admit it openly. Apple has a close system with full control over it, and that's just the way I like it. You think that it's a bad thing. I don't. There's nothing to hide on my part, I'm completely honest about it. > which is why regulations exist to break up monopolies Which Apple is not. God, you're dumb, and you don't even know it.