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That's around the number of people who've lived all their lives before moving to SF in suburbs I would say ? Coming from any other big city, San Francisco doesn

That's around the number of people who've lived all their lives before moving to SF in suburbs I would say ? Coming from any other big city, San Francisco doesn't feel more unsafe.

viklove 6y ago
Coming from Chicago, SF felt a lot less safe to me. Would not even consider living there even though I've lived in a big city for 5+ years. Chicago has a homeless population, but it's nowhere near as large or as emboldened as SF's.
- cam0 6y ago
  It's a different world if you just avoid the eastern half of the city.
  - ghaff 6y ago
    I think a lot of people, especially in the tech industry, get a somewhat distorted view by the cesspool near the Moscone and Market Street. Not that there aren't problems elsewhere but the area that conventioneers are exposed to is especially awful.
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- eindiran 6y ago
  Having lived in Chicago and SF, one big difference is how the problem areas are distributed geographically. In Chicago, the high foot-traffic areas (eg the Loop, Logan Square, Wicker Park) where tourists are likely to end up are very nice; you only end up in problem territory if you go wandering off into the Westside or Southside. In SF, the problem areas are the high foot-traffic areas where tourists are generally going: Union Square, anywhere touching Market, etc. In the past, I probably would have still felt safer walking around eg the Tenderloin than some areas of Chicago's South/Westside. But beginning a few months after the pandemic began, the streets in SOMA/FiDi/Union Square emptied out (no more tourists or commuters) and SF has started to feel much, much less safe in those areas. In the last few months, my partner has been attacked on the street twice, and I narrowly avoided being mugged with a screwdriver in Union Square itself. That is much worse than anything I ever experienced in the Southside of Chicago.
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nelsondev 6y ago
Coming from NYC, San Francisco feels much more unsafe. I’ve been randomly attacked by a deranged stranger on a busy street (16th and Guerrero in the Mission). I never felt so paranoid when walking around NYC.
thaumasiotes 6y ago
> Coming from any other big city, San Francisco doesn't feel more unsafe. Speaking from years of living in Shanghai, that didn't come close to passing the laugh test.

That's around the number of people who've lived all their lives before moving to SF in suburbs I would say ? Coming from any other big city, San Francisco doesn't feel more unsafe.

viklove 6y ago

Coming from Chicago, SF felt a lot less safe to me. Would not even consider living there even though I've lived in a big city for 5+ years. Chicago has a homeless population, but it's nowhere near as large or as emboldened as SF's.

cam0 6y ago
It's a different world if you just avoid the eastern half of the city.
- ghaff 6y ago
  I think a lot of people, especially in the tech industry, get a somewhat distorted view by the cesspool near the Moscone and Market Street. Not that there aren't problems elsewhere but the area that conventioneers are exposed to is especially awful.
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eindiran 6y ago
Having lived in Chicago and SF, one big difference is how the problem areas are distributed geographically. In Chicago, the high foot-traffic areas (eg the Loop, Logan Square, Wicker Park) where tourists are likely to end up are very nice; you only end up in problem territory if you go wandering off into the Westside or Southside. In SF, the problem areas are the high foot-traffic areas where tourists are generally going: Union Square, anywhere touching Market, etc. In the past, I probably would have still felt safer walking around eg the Tenderloin than some areas of Chicago's South/Westside. But beginning a few months after the pandemic began, the streets in SOMA/FiDi/Union Square emptied out (no more tourists or commuters) and SF has started to feel much, much less safe in those areas. In the last few months, my partner has been attacked on the street twice, and I narrowly avoided being mugged with a screwdriver in Union Square itself. That is much worse than anything I ever experienced in the Southside of Chicago.

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nelsondev 6y ago

Coming from NYC, San Francisco feels much more unsafe. I’ve been randomly attacked by a deranged stranger on a busy street (16th and Guerrero in the Mission). I never felt so paranoid when walking around NYC.

thaumasiotes 6y ago

> Coming from any other big city, San Francisco doesn't feel more unsafe. Speaking from years of living in Shanghai, that didn't come close to passing the laugh test.